Quote from BoosterSD on January 9, 2024, 12:25 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on January 9, 2024, 12:13 pm

Rosario could work as a potential platoon bat at the right price. I wouldn't go 10m though and I don't think he gets that much. He's not great defensively and the bat has been a little inconsistent the past few seasons. Something in the 6-8m range might be more reasonable. Ramirez would be a good fit in the 1B/DH mix if we could get him without giving up too much to the Rays.

You would think that Rosario who was a league average bat at 100 OPS+ last season and as you mentioned not great defensively should not be that expensive. Although I did not think that Bader would get $10.5M, so this offseason is a little crazy.

The trio of Rosario $7M, (LHH), Ramirez $4.4M, (RHH), and Profar $5M, (SH) would provide R/L balance at 1B and LF, and all three should be around what $16.5M range.

Quote from JasonE135 on January 9, 2024, 12:28 pm

There was a question on the MLBTR chat today asking where host Steve Adams thought Eddie Rosario would end up. He said that the Padres could use a cheap corner OF. I was just wondering how cheap he might be. His lifetime OPS+ is 104, so he is basically league average. What does that go for nowadays?

Quote from Jeremy Hill on January 9, 2024, 12:56 pm

The Braves declined a 9m club option on Rosario. That should give some indication of what his market might be.

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 9, 2024, 12:59 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on January 9, 2024, 12:28 pm

There was a question on the MLBTR chat today asking where host Steve Adams thought Eddie Rosario would end up. He said that the Padres could use a cheap corner OF. I was just wondering how cheap he might be. His lifetime OPS+ is 104, so he is basically league average. What does that go for nowadays?

Well,Harrison Baders' OPS+ is 92.....but with better defense.

So....$8-$10 mil?

 

Quote from WindsorUK on January 9, 2024, 1:30 pm

Okay, only because I'm bored, how about Wil Myers?

Plays 1B, LF, CF, can run a bit, might still be able to hit an HR every now and again, would come cheap......???

I know it's scraping the bottom of the barrel but we need warm bodies( if in fact Wil is still alive and able to play!)

Quote from fenn68 on January 9, 2024, 1:54 pm

By now Preller has probably talked with every agent for every FA and has some idea of where they stand with signing demands. Also, probably has a strategy with Merrill, Marsee, and Pauley. Puts us really in the dark as to what Preller sees as priorities.

Guessing that a DH/1B type is not someone he will pursue first … in part there are a lot of options on the FA market (not all good but at ST some will be “cheap”.

I would think CF is the critical first call (assuming Marsee is not being handed the slot). Now Taylor may be the only legit CF left in FA … so he may want to pursue him first until the price gets beyond what is acceptable. At the same time follow in on some trade options with TBD contract implications. If he lands Taylor that will eat a lot of payroll space and Preller downshifts on the LF (second priority) and 3rd hitter. If he does not land Taylor and has to go low cost CF … up shifts on the LF and 3rd hitter.

Now if the can land a useful bat less than $5MM for LF or 3rd hitter … might move on them as needed. (That might be consistent with a Profar signing rumor … maybe LF or 3rd hitter … versatile … gives Preller options on the other non-CF bat to be signed).

Given the lack of depth even after the potential three signings … I would shy away from a pure 1B/DH type since may need that bat to suited for the OF (maybe a Cooper 1B/OF type) … actually an OF who can field.

Quote from sportwarrior on January 9, 2024, 2:26 pm

Quote from fenn68 on January 9, 2024, 1:54 pm

By now Preller has probably talked with every agent for every FA and has some idea of where they stand with signing demands. Also, probably has a strategy with Merrill, Marsee, and Pauley. Puts us really in the dark as to what Preller sees as priorities.

Guessing that a DH/1B type is not someone he will pursue first … in part there are a lot of options on the FA market (not all good but at ST some will be “cheap”.

I would think CF is the critical first call (assuming Marsee is not being handed the slot). Now Taylor may be the only legit CF left in FA … so he may want to pursue him first until the price gets beyond what is acceptable. At the same time follow in on some trade options with TBD contract implications. If he lands Taylor that will eat a lot of payroll space and Preller downshifts on the LF (second priority) and 3rd hitter. If he does not land Taylor and has to go low cost CF … up shifts on the LF and 3rd hitter.

Now if the can land a useful bat less than $5MM for LF or 3rd hitter … might move on them as needed. (That might be consistent with a Profar signing rumor … maybe LF or 3rd hitter … versatile … gives Preller options on the other non-CF bat to be signed).

Given the lack of depth even after the potential three signings … I would shy away from a pure 1B/DH type since may need that bat to suited for the OF (maybe a Cooper 1B/OF type) … actually an OF who can field.

All of that makes sense, but I feel like there just aren't the pieces out there to make anything happen.

At this point, I might rather slide Tatis to CF rather than pay a premium for Taylor, whose love is fine but whose bat really isn't all that much more reliable than Grish's. That would give us more money to play with on short term pieces that can tread water until our prospects round into form.

Also, I have to say that I absolutely do not trust the team's judgment when it comes to prospect readiness at this point. They have a history of rushing kids to the big leagues and it's almost never panned out. Moving Marsee up to a big league starting role purely out of need runs the risk of significantly stunting his development.

Quote from sportwarrior on January 9, 2024, 5:12 pm

Reports are that Imanaga's deal with the Cubs is set to average $15m per year. That seems a bit light considering the likes of Manaea received $14m per year. Perhaps the market is tipping?

Quote from fenn68 on January 9, 2024, 5:21 pm

Quote from sportwarrior on January 9, 2024, 5:12 pm

Reports are that Imanaga's deal with the Cubs is set to average $15m per year. That seems a bit light considering the likes of Manaea received $14m per year. Perhaps the market is tipping?

Have to see the length of the deal first and any opt outs, options, incentives. The write-up pegs him a more mid to lower rotation arm … so maybe more aligned with the over paid Manaea.