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#1331 · January 8, 2024, 2:42 pm
Quote from JasonE135 on January 8, 2024, 2:29 pm
The Padres need a starting a LF, CF, DH and starting pitcher. There are maybe 1 or 2 quality free agents available to fill those spots, but those players will cost over $20 million per season each. The Padres have roughly $20 million to spend, $30 million if they trade Suarez. The Padres don't have the money to fill those positions.
For the Padres to compete in 2024, they will need several rookies and/or young players to break out.
With the delay of Machado to 3B being an unknown at this time, my slight rearrangement of your assessment would be 1B over DH. I would prefer to leave Crone at 2B.
So yes, 3 position players (LF, CF, 1B) and a SP for $20M. Without rushing our own prospects (probably best for the future of SD long term), need to find those fringe guys on other teams that may be blocked and need an opportunity. Or find the right budget veteran and hope they outperform expectations, as happens almost every year in the league (see Wahca/Lugo last season).
I would think Profar and Cooper would be good fits, and both should be less than $10M combined. But then still need CF and SP for less than $11M. Taylor would take most of that for CF, and still need to find a SP.
There will need to be some creativity for the last two moves.
#1332 · January 8, 2024, 2:47 pm
Rumor: we should be on Profar / Padres watch this week.
If true, will be fascinated with the contract in this market vs his 2023 performance.
#1333 · January 8, 2024, 3:16 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on January 8, 2024, 2:42 pmQuote from JasonE135 on January 8, 2024, 2:29 pm
The Padres need a starting a LF, CF, DH and starting pitcher. There are maybe 1 or 2 quality free agents available to fill those spots, but those players will cost over $20 million per season each. The Padres have roughly $20 million to spend, $30 million if they trade Suarez. The Padres don't have the money to fill those positions.
For the Padres to compete in 2024, they will need several rookies and/or young players to break out.
With the delay of Machado to 3B being an unknown at this time, my slight rearrangement of your assessment would be 1B over DH. I would prefer to leave Crone at 2B.
So yes, 3 position players (LF, CF, 1B) and a SP for $20M. Without rushing our own prospects (probably best for the future of SD long term), need to find those fringe guys on other teams that may be blocked and need an opportunity. Or find the right budget veteran and hope they outperform expectations, as happens almost every year in the league (see Wahca/Lugo last season).
I would think Profar and Cooper would be good fits, and both should be less than $10M combined. But then still need CF and SP for less than $11M. Taylor would take most of that for CF, and still need to find a SP.
There will need to be some creativity for the last two moves.
If Preller can get Profar, Cooper and Taylor for $20 million, he should definitely buy a lotto ticket on the same day. I would LOVE to see that happen. I hope it does. That would solve almost all of our needs for this off-season. Fingers crossed.
Preller managed to get the top closers from Japan and Korea for around $10 million total per year for both. Is Cuba's closer available? How about any mid-to-lower level starters from Asia, Central or South America that most teams haven't heard of? Surprise us Preller.
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#1334 · January 8, 2024, 4:42 pm
Shortstop leaders the past 2 seasons
AVG : Bogaerts (.299)
OPS : Seager (.891)
2B : Turner (74)
3B : Witt Jr (16)
HR : Seager (63)
RBI : Lindor (203)
BB : Crawford (161)
SB : Witt Jr (66)
wRC+ : Seager (142)
HardHit% : Seager (42.7%)
fWAR : Lindor (12.5)
OAA : Swanson (42)
OBP : Bogaerts (.367)
#1336 · January 9, 2024, 10:20 am
Quote from MrPadre19 on January 8, 2024, 4:42 pmShortstop leaders the past 2 seasons
AVG : Bogaerts (.299)
OPS : Seager (.891)
2B : Turner (74)
3B : Witt Jr (16)
HR : Seager (63)
RBI : Lindor (203)
BB : Crawford (161)
SB : Witt Jr (66)
wRC+ : Seager (142)
HardHit% : Seager (42.7%)
fWAR : Lindor (12.5)
OAA : Swanson (42)OBP : Bogaerts (.367)
With the exception of Witt, Jr. and Crawford, almost all the other shortstops are signed to long-term deals that exceed Bogaerts CBT; Swanson's is slightly less by 175K per year. Turner (27.3M), Seager (32.5M), Correa (33,333M) and Lindor (33.8M) all exceed Bogaerts with only Swanson's and Correa's length of contract are less than 10 years with the latter having include 2 team options.
My point is that the Bogaerts we saw and the beginning and end of the season, when his wrist was not bothering him that much, is likely the kind of hitter we can expect most of the time in 2024 and beyond. Even with those injuries last year, he outperformed most of others on this list in several categories. So, while we can say the money would have been better spent on pitching in 2023, a free agent has to want to come to San Diego and/or another team has to want to make a trade for what the Padres are offering - we don't know the universe in which Preller was operating or the wishes of Seidler. I believe Bogaerts will show his value to the team this year, whether it is at shortstop or another position, and continue to be a solid hitter for many years to come. Sure, 25+M per year is a lot when a player hits his upper 30's-40 but by that time (2030-2033), 25M may be what your average everyday player may be getting who is not in/over his arbitration years of control.
#1337 · January 9, 2024, 11:17 am
How much would Eddie Rosario cost for LF? Around $10 million? Can the Padres afford him?
#1338 · January 9, 2024, 11:30 am
Quote from JasonE135 on January 9, 2024, 11:17 amHow much would Eddie Rosario cost for LF? Around $10 million? Can the Padres afford him?
Well I just read on MLBTR that he opted out of his 3 year $36M balance of his contract, so I would think that he is at least thinking he can meet or exceed that amount. He is probably looking for $15M per season, and at least 3 or 4 years. And he is 34 years old.
Normally I would say that we could; however, this offseason it is probably too rich for our blood. But that would take a big chunk of what we have available for this offseason.
Would the better option to try and trade for Harold Ramirez from TAM? Not as many HRs, and Ramirez is RHH v LHH (Rosario) SD is already RHH heavy, but Ramirez is younger, cheaper, and has a better BA and OBP.
NOTE: The MLBTR article did mention that MIA has NOT been in contact with him.
#1339 · January 9, 2024, 11:52 am
Quote from BoosterSD on January 9, 2024, 11:30 amQuote from JasonE135 on January 9, 2024, 11:17 amHow much would Eddie Rosario cost for LF? Around $10 million? Can the Padres afford him?
Well I just read on MLBTR that he opted out of his 3 year $36M balance of his contract, so I would think that he is at least thinking he can meet or exceed that amount. He is probably looking for $15M per season, and at least 3 or 4 years. And he is 34 years old.
Normally I would say that we could; however, this offseason it is probably too rich for our blood. But that would take a big chunk of what we have available for this offseason.
Would the better option to try and trade for Harold Ramirez from TAM? Not as many HRs, and Ramirez is RHH v LHH (Rosario) SD is already RHH heavy, but Ramirez is younger, cheaper, and has a better BA and OBP.
NOTE: The MLBTR article did mention that MIA has NOT been in contact with him.
I think you're conflating Soler and Rosario? Both are ~32 years old, though...
#1340 · January 9, 2024, 12:13 pm
Rosario could work as a potential platoon bat at the right price. I wouldn't go 10m though and I don't think he gets that much. He's not great defensively and the bat has been a little inconsistent the past few seasons. Something in the 6-8m range might be more reasonable. Ramirez would be a good fit in the 1B/DH mix if we could get him without giving up too much to the Rays.