Quote from fenn68 on December 22, 2023, 8:48 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 22, 2023, 8:23 am

So there really is no limit to what they can spend on a roster????

The limit is probably the point when the LAD financial backers are not seeing enough return for their investment … and don’t see that point being anywhere near term so the can still spend more.

Now (not in the short run) and maybe needs to wait until the CBA … there may be a point where other owners do gang up on the LAD … and maybe the NYY/NYM to really cap spending if they see that as hurting their bottom line. Understand that even the owners who do not spend do not like others to step in and really dictated their operations.

Sounds as though the NYY and NYM have pulled a bit back on the spend to any limit approach … still very high … but not uncontrolled. So, maybe a push for an even tighter luxury tax set of penalties could come into pay beyond just more penalty money. Even a more drastic loss of draft slots? A ban on international signings? A creative limit on future FA signings such as not being able to sign anyone with an AAV over the QO level … over an AAV of median salary of MLB?

They (given the Union) will not impose a salary cap and anything that limits a player pay potential will be “difficult” … but a slash and burn on draft / international signings might be the next step.

Quote from 3fingersplit on December 22, 2023, 9:41 am

I wonder if Paul McAnulty is still available to play outfield 😉

Quote from Randy Manese on December 22, 2023, 10:02 am

Current CBA expires 1 December 2026; MLB has to find some way of keeping small/medium market teams viable and competitive or fan interest overall for the product may wane.  NBA/NFL took measures to balance the competitive structure but NBA has a lot less players on a team while the NFL/NBA really doesn't have to operate a farm system, so big differences in the way talent is developed and maintained.  Ultimately, if attendance starts to slip between now and the next CBA that may be the only thing that drives the Union to pull back on their hard line on some kind of salary cap.

Quote from JasonE135 on December 22, 2023, 10:49 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 22, 2023, 8:48 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 22, 2023, 8:23 am

So there really is no limit to what they can spend on a roster????

The limit is probably the point when the LAD financial backers are not seeing enough return for their investment … and don’t see that point being anywhere near term so the can still spend more.

Now (not in the short run) and maybe needs to wait until the CBA … there may be a point where other owners do gang up on the LAD … and maybe the NYY/NYM to really cap spending if they see that as hurting their bottom line. Understand that even the owners who do not spend do not like others to step in and really dictated their operations.

Sounds as though the NYY and NYM have pulled a bit back on the spend to any limit approach … still very high … but not uncontrolled. So, maybe a push for an even tighter luxury tax set of penalties could come into pay beyond just more penalty money. Even a more drastic loss of draft slots? A ban on international signings? A creative limit on future FA signings such as not being able to sign anyone with an AAV over the QO level … over an AAV of median salary of MLB?

They (given the Union) will not impose a salary cap and anything that limits a player pay potential will be “difficult” … but a slash and burn on draft / international signings might be the next step.

It seems that MLB either doesn't want to or can't fix this problem. The way to even it out would be to take draft picks to make it harder to rebuild those big spending teams. Unfortunately, they seem to be more concerned about under spending than over spending. With the new draft lottery even a good team can get the 1st pick in the draft. LA went to the playoffs and finished 18 games ahead of the Padres, yet they pick before the Padres in the 2024 draft? Ridiculous! In the top CBT overage tier? Your first rd pick only drops 10 places.

The thing about the CBT that is really going to hurt the Padres this year will be the pick reduction of their qualifying offer returns. The Padres would have gotten 2 extra picks between the 1st and 2nd round next year in return for losing Snell and Hader. Instead, they will be getting 4th round picks. That really hurts.

I don't see things changing. Unfortunately, in this case, MLBs richest owners are actually on the Union's side. Neither want to reduce spending, neither wants to punish rich owners from spending like crazy and both want to punish poor owners for not spending. When the rich and the union are both on the same side against the poor...checkmate.

Quote from fenn68 on December 22, 2023, 11:09 am

One theory against “fixing” the big spending issue is that making the big market teams high profile elite actually helps the league financially … given the money generated by TV revenue is king and that the big markets (LA, NY) not only have a lot of local eyeballs but most surveys has those teams (and maybe the Cubs, Red Sox) as the most followed teams on the US. Add to that some believe (for national financial maximization) the having a select group of mega teams create both mass following and an “enemy” for the other teams to hate and thus creating more interest. Good vs evil? Major stars in major markets?

Just do enough to keep the little guys afloat year to year … occasionally get an underdog a bone in the playoffs … generate some hope / excitement … and, in the big picture, when any owners sell they make big money.

What works best for the league (and eventually all the owners) may not be what the fans of smaller market teams like (but their owners may).

Quote from Jeremy Hill on December 22, 2023, 11:35 am

Patino is back.

https://twitter.com/Padres/status/1738280893662330924

Quote from fenn68 on December 22, 2023, 11:53 am

Quote from Jeremy Hill on December 22, 2023, 11:35 am

Patino is back.

https://twitter.com/Padres/status/1738280893662330924

Interesting … still only 24 but just not good in his ML work (or minor league work) since traded from SD. He is out of minor league options but maybe if they end up DFA him at the end of ST he clears and ends up in the Padres’ minors. (Sort of a long shot he finds his potential and bumps someone off the 26 man out of ST).

Given the “open” 40 man roster over the winter and the Padres really liked his potential when in the system  … clearly worth a shot on pure talent.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 22, 2023, 12:27 pm

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 20, 2023, 4:39 pm

Crismatt to dodgers.

I know we always want former Padres to return but I think it’s quite possible with Patiño….unless there are still concerns with his shoulder.

Not that it was a huge leap but I hit something right.

Lets hope Niebla can do something about his control and confidence issues.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 22, 2023, 12:30 pm

dodgers re doubling up on the Japanese market.

Suddenly they are Japan’s team…yes there are others including the Padres.

But with both Ohtani and Yamamoto they have that markets attention.

I sure wish we could have gotten Lee….would have made us Koreas main focus…but no way we were gonna pay that price.