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Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 21, 2019, 3:32 pmQuote from Brian Connelly on November 21, 2019, 10:49 amWow. Grandal already signed.... above projected.
I think this year is going to be the exact opposite of last year's FA market: it's going to move VERY quickly, which in turn will get the trade market rolling... Of course both teams & players would rather decisions made early than late in FA, but the dynamic in this market is just completely different than last year with: FA SP strong: "everyone" needs pitching, many teams in on even the most expensive guys; Nats likely to sign one or both of Rendon & Stras, etc. Not the '30 teams waiting to see what happens with the 2 mega FA with limited # of teams involved' before doing anything market of last year....
Good chance Pads roster looks completely different by the time the Rule 5 draft rolls around.
And Stras telling everyone he wants to sign quickly.. I can see this year being totally oposite last yr.. Grandal best C signed.. Orodozzi accepts Q offer.. Will Smith best BP closer FA signed.. Dominos falling all around
Quote from Brian Connelly on November 21, 2019, 10:49 amWow. Grandal already signed.... above projected.
I think this year is going to be the exact opposite of last year's FA market: it's going to move VERY quickly, which in turn will get the trade market rolling... Of course both teams & players would rather decisions made early than late in FA, but the dynamic in this market is just completely different than last year with: FA SP strong: "everyone" needs pitching, many teams in on even the most expensive guys; Nats likely to sign one or both of Rendon & Stras, etc. Not the '30 teams waiting to see what happens with the 2 mega FA with limited # of teams involved' before doing anything market of last year....
Good chance Pads roster looks completely different by the time the Rule 5 draft rolls around.
And Stras telling everyone he wants to sign quickly.. I can see this year being totally oposite last yr.. Grandal best C signed.. Orodozzi accepts Q offer.. Will Smith best BP closer FA signed.. Dominos falling all around
Quote from MrPadre19 on November 21, 2019, 4:36 pmQuote from 84padres on November 21, 2019, 1:39 pmQuote from David Nevin on November 21, 2019, 11:07 amNot a fan of Grandal so this makes me happy.
I managed to go the entire 2019 season without watching a White Sox game....now I have a reason to keep that streak going.
Plus he always destroys our pitching....glad he's out of the league.
We play White Sox this year so you may see him after all.
I’m sure I will.
With any luck he'll be on the IL.
Is that wrong to say?
Quote from 84padres on November 21, 2019, 1:39 pmQuote from David Nevin on November 21, 2019, 11:07 amNot a fan of Grandal so this makes me happy.
I managed to go the entire 2019 season without watching a White Sox game....now I have a reason to keep that streak going.
Plus he always destroys our pitching....glad he's out of the league.
We play White Sox this year so you may see him after all.
I’m sure I will.
With any luck he'll be on the IL.
Is that wrong to say?
Quote from LynchMob on November 22, 2019, 11:38 amA friend of mine sent this to me ... (ie. I don't know if it's accurate) ...
Note the ages of pitchers who will be free agents a year from now.
Chase Anderson (33) – $9.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chris Archer (32) – $11MM club option with a $250K buyout
Jake Arrieta (35)
Trevor Bauer (30)
Tyler Chatwood (31)
Anthony DeSclafani (31)
Michael Fiers (36)
Kevin Gausman (30)
J.A. Happ (38) – $17MM vesting option
Merrill Kelly (32) – $4.25MM club option with a $500K buyout
Corey Kluber (35) – $17.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Mike Leake (33) – $18MM mutual option with a $5MM buyout
Jon Lester (37) – $25MM mutual/vesting option with a $10MM buyout
Mike Minor (33)
Charlie Morton (37) – $15MM vesting option
Jimmy Nelson (31)
James Paxton (32)
Jose Quintana (32)
Robbie Ray (29)
Garrett Richards (33)
Jeff Samardzija (36)
Aaron Sanchez (28)
Anibal Sanchez (37) – $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Marcus Stroman (30)
Masahiro Tanaka (32)
Taijuan Walker (28)
Jordan Zimmermann (35)
A friend of mine sent this to me ... (ie. I don't know if it's accurate) ...
Note the ages of pitchers who will be free agents a year from now.
Chase Anderson (33) – $9.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chris Archer (32) – $11MM club option with a $250K buyout
Jake Arrieta (35)
Trevor Bauer (30)
Tyler Chatwood (31)
Anthony DeSclafani (31)
Michael Fiers (36)
Kevin Gausman (30)
J.A. Happ (38) – $17MM vesting option
Merrill Kelly (32) – $4.25MM club option with a $500K buyout
Corey Kluber (35) – $17.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Mike Leake (33) – $18MM mutual option with a $5MM buyout
Jon Lester (37) – $25MM mutual/vesting option with a $10MM buyout
Mike Minor (33)
Charlie Morton (37) – $15MM vesting option
Jimmy Nelson (31)
James Paxton (32)
Jose Quintana (32)
Robbie Ray (29)
Garrett Richards (33)
Jeff Samardzija (36)
Aaron Sanchez (28)
Anibal Sanchez (37) – $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Marcus Stroman (30)
Masahiro Tanaka (32)
Taijuan Walker (28)
Jordan Zimmermann (35)
Quote from fenn68 on November 22, 2019, 11:56 amNot to worry in 2021 the Padres will have the elite (but low cost controllable) SP of Gore, Patino, Paddack, Lamet, and one of Quantrill / Morejon / Lawson on their way to the playoffs.
Not to worry in 2021 the Padres will have the elite (but low cost controllable) SP of Gore, Patino, Paddack, Lamet, and one of Quantrill / Morejon / Lawson on their way to the playoffs.
Quote from fenn68 on November 24, 2019, 6:58 amPadres hire Ryan Flaherty as their Quality Control coach .... 33 and apparently retiring from Baltimore ... former teammate of Machado. Qualifications?
Goes with hiring away from Baltimore coaches Bobby Dickerson and Wayne Kirby who had long term association with Machado.
Other than the connection to Machado ... not sure the linkage that got them to the Padres. Maybe fine as coaches so no real judgement since know little about them as coaches. Dickerson and Kirby were there during Baltimore’s winning cycle and for Machado’s peak years.
Past 3 years Baltimore losses have been 87 - 115 - 108 (2019) so not a ringing endorsement although not likely their fault. Padres losses were 91 - 96 - 92 (2019).
I guess if these moves benefit Machado (#1 asset) to return to peak performance ... that is good ... doubt any real downside to these moves.
Padres hire Ryan Flaherty as their Quality Control coach .... 33 and apparently retiring from Baltimore ... former teammate of Machado. Qualifications?
Goes with hiring away from Baltimore coaches Bobby Dickerson and Wayne Kirby who had long term association with Machado.
Other than the connection to Machado ... not sure the linkage that got them to the Padres. Maybe fine as coaches so no real judgement since know little about them as coaches. Dickerson and Kirby were there during Baltimore’s winning cycle and for Machado’s peak years.
Past 3 years Baltimore losses have been 87 - 115 - 108 (2019) so not a ringing endorsement although not likely their fault. Padres losses were 91 - 96 - 92 (2019).
I guess if these moves benefit Machado (#1 asset) to return to peak performance ... that is good ... doubt any real downside to these moves.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 24, 2019, 7:45 amWell Bad teams have good Coaches too... Lets not forget Dave Roberts and AJ Hinch were part of really bad Padres teams
Well Bad teams have good Coaches too... Lets not forget Dave Roberts and AJ Hinch were part of really bad Padres teams
Quote from Commie on November 24, 2019, 12:17 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on November 24, 2019, 7:45 amWell Bad teams have good Coaches too... Lets not forget Dave Roberts and AJ Hinch were part of really bad Padres teams
AJ Hinch should be suspended for five years at least. Not on same level with Doc or virtually any other ML manager. Garbage human being.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 24, 2019, 7:45 amWell Bad teams have good Coaches too... Lets not forget Dave Roberts and AJ Hinch were part of really bad Padres teams
AJ Hinch should be suspended for five years at least. Not on same level with Doc or virtually any other ML manager. Garbage human being.




