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Isn't JBJ's contract just tendered? Aren't those non-guaranteed? Why wouldn't they just release him and be on the hook for the prorated version after ST?

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 9, 2020, 9:03 am

My thoughts were that since the Sox went with LA because they took Price and his contract....the Padres aren’t willing to take Price but may be willing to take JBJ to further lower Bos. payroll,which is obviously their main objective.Obviously this is  long shot....but.

If Bos. wants a young controllable reliever(Munoz/Pagan) along with young controllable SP(Lucchesi/Quantril) and a young,cheaper OF(Grisham/Cordero/Naylor) this trade could make some sense “if” JBJ in the deal is a Bos. requirement.

Myers/Quantril/Pagan/Grisham/Campusano for Betts/Bradley.

With SD paying 1/3 of Myers contract.

Just a thought.......but what a coup it would be if we “stole” Betts from the Dodgers!

 

 

Sorry Mr. P, there is no way AJP is going to give up Pagan, Grisham & Campusano for Betts & Bradley.  Again, I'm fine getting Betts & Bradley from Boston for a package of say Luchessi, Naylor, Myers & blank.  Could be Yates?  I don't want to give up Campusano.  I would even throw in another lower level prospect, like Arias or Lawson, that have high upside, but haven't totally broken out yet, hopefully they will this summer.  I would probably do both prospects, if it makes the deal.  Will help ease the roster log jam this upcoming offseason.  Go Pads!

Quote from lafnboy13 on February 9, 2020, 12:33 pm

Isn't JBJ's contract just tendered? Aren't those non-guaranteed? Why wouldn't they just release him and be on the hook for the prorated version after ST?

That is the a partial escape valve for Boston.

IF Bradley is released by the 16th day of ST ... only on the hook for 30 days of his $11MM contract (only about $1.8MM and save just over $9MM).

IF released between then and the end of ST ... only on the hook for 45 days (only about $2.75 MM ... still saving about $8.25 MM).

Again Boston has over estimated the trade value of Bradley ... no team wants him at anything near $11 (and a FA after the season) and they all know the situation and IF they wanted him ... just wait for the release and sign him at a bargain rate. If not released, not a big loss.

I guess Boston took a $1.8MM gamble that someone would want Bradley ... lost.

I don’t want to give up Campusano either.

I agree that’s too much.

Its more the concept of a Betts/Bradley type deal that would make “some” sense based on this most recent move and the Dodger deal falling thru.

Again.....longshot....but “if” we are talking to Bos. again a Betts/Bradley deal for “whoever” makes some sense with trading away Margot.

You have to believe AJ would love to get Betts even more now to stick it to LA.

Might be a little awkward in Beantown this year if they keep him.

 

Looks like the dodgers got it done. Jeter Downs headed to Boston along with Verdugo.

Well at least it cost them more.....but now they have a good BP arm in addition.

It's just gonna be even more satisfying when they don't win the World Series again "with" Betts and have lost Verdugo/Downs/Wong and $$.

May have to root for the American League again...which I don't like but only do when playing LA.

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 10, 2020, 6:49 am

Well at least it cost them more.....but now they have a good BP arm in addition.

It's just gonna be even more satisfying when they don't win the World Series again "with" Betts and have lost Verdugo/Downs/Wong and $$.

May have to root for the American League again...which I don't like but only do when playing LA.

 

Actually I will be rooting for my WC 2 Padres to upset the LAD in 7 and go tonthe WS next October

From what I have read, Emilio looks to be a legitimate arm.  Our BP should be efficient.

Strahm/Castillo to Munoz to Pomeranz to Pagan to Yates. Sheesh...our back end BP is especially good.

Would feel really good if we could acquire one more strong bat.

Although guessing something in the pen will change by opening day (injury or trade) ... looking pretty "balanced" if they go with:

High Leverage situations: (RHP) Yates and Pagan; (LHP) Pomeranz and Castillo. High leverage could be in the 7th inning ... not just the 9th and having 2 LHP and 2 RHP covers a lot of situations. (that is the first 4)

Multiple Innings / early: (RHP) Stammen; (LHP) Strahm. Maybe "starters" for an inning or two like TB has deployed. Again one LH one RH covers different opponent line-ups. (that is 2 more)

Then a "swing man" that could be early or late (bit of a wait and see) should be Pierce Johnson ... dominate in the pen (albeit in Japan) and a history of starting (suggesting multiple innings potential). (That is one more)

That is seven of the eight ... the last one will be "interesting":

  1. Guerra is out of minor league options ... with his "stuff" and the perpetual need for RP would get claimed off waivers ... might depend on how good he delivers in ST (unless included in a trade)
  2. Quantrill (assume Lucchesi get the #5 SP) ... do you keep him around as the "long man" and spot starter out of the gate or do you rely on the SP / pen to avoid the need for a long man / spot starter?
  3. Munoz ... high ceiling flamethrower and maybe the heir apparent to Yates as the closer ... but is he better served to be in a closer role in the minors to start the season ... still needs to show he can pitch with a heavy workload .... and be #1 on speed dial with the inevitable DL to a RP occurs?
  4. Perdomo ... could be a better choice than Quantrill for the "long man" / spot starter in a limited use role while Quantrill gets innings as a starter in the minors and is on speed dial if a SP goes DL early.
  5. Wingenter / Reyes / Bednar look like AAA insurance for RP call-up (all could use steady minor league work)
  6. Bolanos / Baez / Morejon look like AA insurance for SP call-up (all could use steady minor league work)

That seems to be like a lot of talent to backfill as needed and opening 13 issues that arise. Remember that the opening day 13 rarely looks like the June 1 staff ... so positioning depth is strategic.

Plus some real solid trade chips ... especially if out of contention at the trade deadline.

The Padres and veteran infielder Gordon Beckham are in agreement on a minor league contract, per Chris McCosky of the Detroit News (Twitter link). He’ll be in big league camp with the Friars this spring. Beckham is represented by CAA.

RHH 33 year old veteran INF that plays all the positions. Probably a very good AAA insurance policy for a back-up role in case of injuries if the Padres are in contention and not wanting to risk using a rookie. Good glove ... not much of a bat. He probably slots as a call-up RHH INF ahead of Miller if the need is early in 2020.