Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2019, 9:31 am

MLBPipeline is now rolling out its Top 10 by position ... RHP and LHP so far.

RHP .... no Padres (sorry Paddack / Patino / Baez) but if there is any position with an abundance of quality prospects it is RHP

LHP ... Gore (#2), Morejon (#6), Allen (#8), and Weathers (#10) .... having 4 of the top 10 LHP in minor league baseball is a very strong showing.

Should note that Gohara (or any of the Atlanta LHP prospects) is not in the top 10 .... prospect stock fading? (they do have two of the RHP).

Quote from LynchMob on January 16, 2019, 10:33 am

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2019, 9:22 am

Tatis is making a case for ML time coming sooner than later:

per: Dennis Lin·

Fernando Tatis Jr. was named MVP of the round-robin portion of the Dominican Winter League playoffs. Now he’s received the green light from the Padres to keep playing for Fernando Tatis Sr. Their hometown team, Estrellas Orientales, is seeking its first title since 1968.

Looks like they play 9 games starting tomorrow ... http://www.lidom.com/home/calendario/

Quote from LynchMob on January 16, 2019, 3:53 pm

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2019, 9:31 am

MLBPipeline is now rolling out its Top 10 by position ... RHP and LHP so far.

RHP .... no Padres (sorry Paddack / Patino / Baez) but if there is any position with an abundance of quality prospects it is RHP

LHP ... Gore (#2), Morejon (#6), Allen (#8), and Weathers (#10) .... having 4 of the top 10 LHP in minor league baseball is a very strong showing.

Should note that Gohara (or any of the Atlanta LHP prospects) is not in the top 10 .... prospect stock fading? (they do have two of the RHP).

Ah, but Patino does get the "Keep An Eye On: Luis Patino, Padres" mention!

https://www.mlb.com/news/2019-top-10-right-handed-pitching-prospects/c-302651350?tid=151437456

As if baseball's best farm system wasn't already overflowing with talented right-handers, the Padres have another one in Patino, signed for $120,000 out of Colombia in 2014. He has a mid-90s fastball that peaks at 99 mph, a pair of power breaking balls in his slider and curveball and a developing yet promising changeup.

Quote from fenn68 on January 17, 2019, 7:08 am

MLBPipeline has released its 2019 Top 10 catching prospects today.

Mejia is #2 overall and listed as #1 for hitting and arm but also identified as having the most to prove.

#1 is Joey Bart ... the #2 pick in last years draft.

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 17, 2019, 9:37 am

Quote from fenn68 on January 17, 2019, 7:08 am

MLBPipeline has released its 2019 Top 10 catching prospects today.

Mejia is #2 overall and listed as #1 for hitting and arm but also identified as having the most to prove.

#1 is Joey Bart ... the #2 pick in last years draft.

I always am amazed when a prospect is ranked like Bart is without even playing one full season of Pro ball.

So he's the #1 prospect in all of baseball at his position after 180 AB's in Low A at the age of 22?

 

I guess I will always take issue with ranking based on "potential" over production because it is completely based on opinion and not numbers.

I guess being an "Old School" baseball guy numbers and stats are everything to me.

 

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 17, 2019, 9:42 am

I really don't care where Mejia ranks in comparison to Bart but at only 1 year older and producing in AAA you would think that would mean more than where Bart was drafted and what he did against guys 2-4 years younger than him in Low A.

 

Quote from fenn68 on January 17, 2019, 10:00 am

Quote from David Nevin on January 17, 2019, 9:42 am

I really don't care where Mejia ranks in comparison to Bart but at only 1 year older and producing in AAA you would think that would mean more than where Bart was drafted and what he did against guys 2-4 years younger than him in Low A.

 

Sort of a can't win for whoever is producing a list .... forecasting is inherently fraught with error and interpretation.

Creating one list covering every minor league player ... whew. We all may be better served with maybe 2 lists ... one for AA/AAA players and a second for A ball and below since many see the split between A+ and AA the biggest hurdle in the minors. Add that if were are viewing only AA/AAA options on a list we get a better sense of near term players if we are viewing setting near term rosters (either internally or via trade).

On the other hand, one list opens a more interesting dialogue ... I am sure the teams don't really care and have their own list (that they are not sharing).

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 17, 2019, 10:11 am

Yeah I know "why" this happens I just don't think I'll ever agree with it.

I guess each Scout or "list maker" uses their own interpretation of production vs. projection.

One may feel a 23 year old producing in AAA means more than another in Low A...others may completely ignore level and

only use what type of major league player each will become in "their opinion".

I just have a hard time ignoring the 2-3 levels between the two as if the lower level prospect has zero chance of flaming out before ever reaching the level of the higher level player.

So using this same example.....how much is it worth that Mejia is producing now at AAA whereas Bart still has at least some chance of never even reaching AAA?

Like I said.....I understand how these lists are made but I guess I'll just always question this aspect of it.

 

 

Quote from LynchMob on January 17, 2019, 6:06 pm

Quote from LynchMob on January 16, 2019, 10:33 am

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2019, 9:22 am

Tatis is making a case for ML time coming sooner than later:

per: Dennis Lin·

Fernando Tatis Jr. was named MVP of the round-robin portion of the Dominican Winter League playoffs. Now he’s received the green light from the Padres to keep playing for Fernando Tatis Sr. Their hometown team, Estrellas Orientales, is seeking its first title since 1968.

Looks like they play 9 games starting tomorrow ... http://www.lidom.com/home/calendario/

DWL Final Series (best-of-9) has started ...

Game 1 box score = http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2019_01_17_torwin_estwin_1&t=g_box&sid=l131

Fernando Tatis Jr. singles on a line drive to center fielder ... part of 5-run rally in 4th to put EO up 5-1 thru 4-1/2 ...

Side Note: Former Padres' farm hand Jose De Paula started the game for the visiting Toros