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Quote from fenn68 on July 13, 2018, 5:55 pmFor amusement only, RosterResource has a current Top 200 minor league player list:
Roster Resource's Position Player rankings are based on Year-to-Date production using several weighted categories. AGE and LEVEL are also taken into account.
4 .... Naylor
33 .... Logan Allen
34 .... Tatis
65 .... Reed
75 .... Paddack
88 ... Reyes
105 .... Urias
118 .... France
135 .... Margevicius
150 .... Nicholas
167 .... A. Allen
186 .... Ornelas
12 out of 200 is a very good representation even though I have no idea of the algorithm they use ... but remember this is billed as a production based ranking ... not a prospect projected value. I will note that I was shocked that Naylor came in at 4th best player.
For amusement only, RosterResource has a current Top 200 minor league player list:
Roster Resource's Position Player rankings are based on Year-to-Date production using several weighted categories. AGE and LEVEL are also taken into account.
4 .... Naylor
33 .... Logan Allen
34 .... Tatis
65 .... Reed
75 .... Paddack
88 ... Reyes
105 .... Urias
118 .... France
135 .... Margevicius
150 .... Nicholas
167 .... A. Allen
186 .... Ornelas
12 out of 200 is a very good representation even though I have no idea of the algorithm they use ... but remember this is billed as a production based ranking ... not a prospect projected value. I will note that I was shocked that Naylor came in at 4th best player.
Quote from fenn68 on July 14, 2018, 8:19 amApril (96 AB) ....... 177/231/333
May (122 AB) ....... 336/414/539
June (91 AB) ........ 330/413/527
July (33 AB) ......... 333/353/485
Those are the monthly slash lines for Tatis. Is that enough consistent production at the AA level to warrant his promotion to AAA after the futures game? About 8 weeks in AAA this season could do a lot to set him up for replacing Galvis as the 2019 Padre SS.
April (96 AB) ....... 177/231/333
May (122 AB) ....... 336/414/539
June (91 AB) ........ 330/413/527
July (33 AB) ......... 333/353/485
Those are the monthly slash lines for Tatis. Is that enough consistent production at the AA level to warrant his promotion to AAA after the futures game? About 8 weeks in AAA this season could do a lot to set him up for replacing Galvis as the 2019 Padre SS.
Quote from Ryan Payne on July 14, 2018, 8:42 amReed is in DC for the Futures Game.
Reed is in DC for the Futures Game.
Quote from dvmin98 on July 15, 2018, 4:09 amWhat do the staff know about Efrain Contreras and Omar Cruz? They are a couple of youngsters down in AZ that have been throwing up some decent stats on the mound. Cruz is ANOTHER lefty, it seems, that has a great K:BB ratio.
What do the staff know about Efrain Contreras and Omar Cruz? They are a couple of youngsters down in AZ that have been throwing up some decent stats on the mound. Cruz is ANOTHER lefty, it seems, that has a great K:BB ratio.
Quote from Philip Spector on July 15, 2018, 7:48 pmQuote from dvmin98 on July 15, 2018, 4:09 amWhat do the staff know about Efrain Contreras and Omar Cruz? They are a couple of youngsters down in AZ that have been throwing up some decent stats on the mound. Cruz is ANOTHER lefty, it seems, that has a great K:BB ratio.
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/daily-prospect-notes-6-24-and-6-25/
Omar Cruz, LHP, San Diego Padres (Profile)
Level: Complex-level Age: 19 Org Rank: NR FV: 35
Line: 4 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 10 KNotes
Cruz is a 6-foot lefty with a lower arm slot and advanced control of a 90-92 mph fastball. He also has an average curveball, which he can throw for strikes. That has largely been enough to carve up opposing hitters throughout his first two AZL starts. He works down with the fastball and the arm action is changeup friendly. He could have a mix of 50s and 55s at peak.
Quote from dvmin98 on July 15, 2018, 4:09 amWhat do the staff know about Efrain Contreras and Omar Cruz? They are a couple of youngsters down in AZ that have been throwing up some decent stats on the mound. Cruz is ANOTHER lefty, it seems, that has a great K:BB ratio.
Omar Cruz, LHP, San Diego Padres (Profile)
Level: Complex-level Age: 19 Org Rank: NR FV: 35
Line: 4 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 10 KNotes
Cruz is a 6-foot lefty with a lower arm slot and advanced control of a 90-92 mph fastball. He also has an average curveball, which he can throw for strikes. That has largely been enough to carve up opposing hitters throughout his first two AZL starts. He works down with the fastball and the arm action is changeup friendly. He could have a mix of 50s and 55s at peak.
Quote from Philip Spector on July 15, 2018, 7:48 pmIs Edwards going to play again this year in AZL?
Is Edwards going to play again this year in AZL?
Quote from Philip Spector on July 15, 2018, 7:52 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 13, 2018, 5:48 pmFor some reason Reed went on the temporary inactive list and equally for some reason Rosario got the filler role.
Velocity is good IF it is contained in control / command ... sometime the objective is to reduce velocity to get the FB to locate better (or have more movement) ... also Baez needed to develop secondary pitches which may take a bit away from velocity. A straight 98 MPH FB with little in secondary pitches may work in A ball but not in the upper levels. Development is a bumpy road.
I think people are just spinning to make Baez's season last year look not as impressive as it was. Simple fact is based on both reports and simple age curve's production expected Baez has taken a big step back this year, maybe he's hurt and pitching through it, maybe something mechanical has broken down, we definitely don't know but I don't think it's fair to say last year was him simply taking advantage of less experienced hitters. The reports on the stuff were incredible, sitting mid to high 90s without walking anyone and flashing 2 solid off speed pitches. The reports this year have been very much different.
Quote from fenn68 on July 13, 2018, 5:48 pmFor some reason Reed went on the temporary inactive list and equally for some reason Rosario got the filler role.
Velocity is good IF it is contained in control / command ... sometime the objective is to reduce velocity to get the FB to locate better (or have more movement) ... also Baez needed to develop secondary pitches which may take a bit away from velocity. A straight 98 MPH FB with little in secondary pitches may work in A ball but not in the upper levels. Development is a bumpy road.
I think people are just spinning to make Baez's season last year look not as impressive as it was. Simple fact is based on both reports and simple age curve's production expected Baez has taken a big step back this year, maybe he's hurt and pitching through it, maybe something mechanical has broken down, we definitely don't know but I don't think it's fair to say last year was him simply taking advantage of less experienced hitters. The reports on the stuff were incredible, sitting mid to high 90s without walking anyone and flashing 2 solid off speed pitches. The reports this year have been very much different.
Quote from Cptjack on July 16, 2018, 10:12 pmERA's for relievers are so inflated this year with the extra innings changes. I'm not sure if it's better to subject a young reliever to the 10th or shelter them from it.
ERA's for relievers are so inflated this year with the extra innings changes. I'm not sure if it's better to subject a young reliever to the 10th or shelter them from it.
Quote from dvmin98 on July 17, 2018, 5:21 amQuote from Cptjack on July 16, 2018, 10:12 pmERA's for relievers are so inflated this year with the extra innings changes. I'm not sure if it's better to subject a young reliever to the 10th or shelter them from it.
Actually, I think if the runner that starts on second ends up scoring, its considered an unearned run, so I don't think it has any bearing on the stats, other that it puts the pitcher in a 'stressful situation' where a runner is in scoring position with nobody out.
Quote from Cptjack on July 16, 2018, 10:12 pmERA's for relievers are so inflated this year with the extra innings changes. I'm not sure if it's better to subject a young reliever to the 10th or shelter them from it.
Actually, I think if the runner that starts on second ends up scoring, its considered an unearned run, so I don't think it has any bearing on the stats, other that it puts the pitcher in a 'stressful situation' where a runner is in scoring position with nobody out.
Quote from Cptjack on July 17, 2018, 10:12 pmIs it being counted that way? hmm. I guess i'm just catching all the games when they're putting a 2 on the board.
Is it being counted that way? hmm. I guess i'm just catching all the games when they're putting a 2 on the board.




