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Fernando Tatis, Jr

I think they waited until they had completed the battery of MRI and real doctors weighed in.

What they actually are saying is that he will “rest” for about 3 weeks and be re-evaluated. So still a TBD but not sure the upside of bringing him back for three weeks if there is any risk of making this worse.

Did hear one analysis that suggested this type of injury is not all that uncommon for young players (ages 20-24) ... basically their bodies are still developing and just not ready for the level of intense workload. (Makes the case for giving giving young players some breaks during the season ... no matter how good.)

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/fernando-tatis-jr-s-amazing-catch

When do we offer him an extension?

Have we already and he declined?

Does it depend on how high payroll goes this year?

Next year?

Inquiring minds want to know.........

My guess is we wait to see if he stays healthy/performs this season and make the attempt next offseason.

Quote from David Nevin on November 7, 2019, 9:52 am

When do we offer him an extension?

Have we already and he declined?

Does it depend on how high payroll goes this year?

Next year?

Inquiring minds want to know.........

My guess is we wait to see if he stays healthy/performs this season and make the attempt next offseason.

I agree.   Need to see if he can sustain last year's level?  I don't know if .315/.380 over full season realistic in 2nd year?  And stay healthy/play smart as well as aggressively pushing envelope (no splits please!)

Doesn't really mattter, but will be interesting to see what Pads give him as a pre-arb raise relative to Paddack, Lucchesi, & Lauer.

IF Tatis has a quality 2020 the Padres may open extension discussions after the season before he hits Super 2 first arbitration.

Doubt they give him (or the others) anything above the league minimum for 2020.

How gun shy will they be from the early extension to Myers. I can remember AL ROY Jolten Joe Charbeneau ... who was a total washout after his Rookie season and there have been others. I believe Tatis will not totally washout but need more time to determine how big an extension should be.

Jedd Gyorko says sign him to an extension now.

You guys comparing one of the best prospects of all time to Myers and Gyorko is comedy.. With Tatis Jr is not if he will be good.. Is more if he stays healthy.. Kind of like Trea Turner (I don't see no extension) .. But yeah if he plays 140 in 2020 and goes 280/350/450.. An extension follows 8/110 keeps him in SD for a decade.. Maybe longer after..

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 8, 2019, 6:20 am

You guys comparing one of the best prospects of all time to Myers and Gyorko is comedy.. With Tatis Jr is not if he will be good.. Is more if he stays healthy.. Kind of like Trea Turner (I don't see no extension) .. But yeah if he plays 140 in 2020 and goes 280/350/450.. An extension follows 8/110 keeps him in SD for a decade.. Maybe longer after..

Of course it was humor. Come on Henry, I used the sarcasm font on my computer. Apparently it didnt show up on my post though. 🙂

Not as much a question of trying to extend him ... more of how much money and FA years are in play ... and what he (his agent) will expect as fair market.

As it stands the Padres control him for 5 years (4 in arbitration since he will be a Super 2). IF he is as good as we think (hope) he will be, those later Arb years will be in the $20MM+ years (see Betts, Rendon). FA years at $30MM? So maybe $50-60MM just to buy out his five control years. Then add 3 FA years at $30MM ... the deal is 8 years $140-150MM.

Why would his agent accept anything less based on Tatis’ initial performance? Even if the “security” card is played ... not going to cut much off that total. Padres take a lot of risk based on 1/2 year of productivity and projection to the elite level.

Sort of why after year 2 makes sense for both sides ... less extending on projection and more on ML performance. Much easier for both side to settle on numbers / years. Consider WASH top kids ... 2018 - 2019 .... Soto: 949 to 923 OPS while Robles: 874 - 745 OPS both were elite prospects ... likely the 2018 valuation on Soto holds BUT the 2018 valuation on Robles drops (still would consider extending him but for less dollars) ... WASH has not extended either.

I will add that all reports are that Tatis likes the Padres and is more than willing to sign an extension ... but would suggest that if he has a strong showing in 2020 that extension could be a 10+ year deal taking him into his 30s.

I would be surprised if they don’t work out an extension .... at some point ... just does not have to be now.

As it stands the Padres control him for 5 years (4 in arbitration since he will be a Super 2).

Actually, since he was on O.D. roster, and looks extremely unlikely to ever be optioned back to minors, it's 5 years control, but 3 "regular" years of Arb;  Last season + 2 more minimum  yrs + 3 arb years.