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Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 1:00 pmQuote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
NO A's got the P and INF for Irvin... but still yeah I'd rather have Irvin 180 IP than a 15th to 20th spec and a lower not top 30 P
Quote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
NO A's got the P and INF for Irvin... but still yeah I'd rather have Irvin 180 IP than a 15th to 20th spec and a lower not top 30 P
Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 1:03 pmQuote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
They still have Blackburn (A's) who is better . But would require Garcia (to $$ match)..Garcia could easily close for the A's .. and based on this return... wonder if OF Salinas + Garcia for Blackburn gets it done
Quote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
They still have Blackburn (A's) who is better . But would require Garcia (to $$ match)..Garcia could easily close for the A's .. and based on this return... wonder if OF Salinas + Garcia for Blackburn gets it done
Quote from fenn68 on January 26, 2023, 2:31 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 1:00 pmQuote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
NO A's got the P and INF for Irvin... but still yeah I'd rather have Irvin 180 IP than a 15th to 20th spec and a lower not top 30 P
Reported as Irvin and a minor league pitcher to BALT with OAK getting minor league INF.
Shows we we don’t know about how the players are evaluated by ML teams.
On the surface Irvin … 29 but 4 years control at league minimum who looks to be able to deliver innings with a low 4 ERA would be more valuable as a#5 SP to a lot of clubs … but he was not. Soft thrower with nothing outstanding so I guess the analytics don’t do him any favors.
Then if you consider OAK had to throw in a minor league RP to get a A+ level prospect … maybe we are underestimating the prospect. He was quite good as a 20 year old INF in high A last season. The ranking may be a reflection of before last season and not his development in 2022. Clearly OAK wanted this kid since they had no motivation to move Irvin.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 1:00 pmQuote from BoosterSD on January 26, 2023, 12:37 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 12:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1618702868617338883?t=103Iof7qp5N6J3lu1nNSiQ&s=19
Irvin one of the guys I liked... he basically went for Batten wtf.. this dude not even in top 30 Orioles prospect list... inning eater we need
So BAL gets a decent innings eater and another P prospect for Rojas.
Good move for BAL, wonder if Preller just wasnt interested in Irvin?
NO A's got the P and INF for Irvin... but still yeah I'd rather have Irvin 180 IP than a 15th to 20th spec and a lower not top 30 P
Reported as Irvin and a minor league pitcher to BALT with OAK getting minor league INF.
Shows we we don’t know about how the players are evaluated by ML teams.
On the surface Irvin … 29 but 4 years control at league minimum who looks to be able to deliver innings with a low 4 ERA would be more valuable as a#5 SP to a lot of clubs … but he was not. Soft thrower with nothing outstanding so I guess the analytics don’t do him any favors.
Then if you consider OAK had to throw in a minor league RP to get a A+ level prospect … maybe we are underestimating the prospect. He was quite good as a 20 year old INF in high A last season. The ranking may be a reflection of before last season and not his development in 2022. Clearly OAK wanted this kid since they had no motivation to move Irvin.
Quote from Jeremy Hill on January 26, 2023, 2:47 pmDifferent organizations have different evaluations. Oakland seems to be going after contact oriented speedsters. First it was Ruiz and now this kid. I'm a little surprised at the return, but there seem to be some questions about how Irvin will do outside of Oakland.
Different organizations have different evaluations. Oakland seems to be going after contact oriented speedsters. First it was Ruiz and now this kid. I'm a little surprised at the return, but there seem to be some questions about how Irvin will do outside of Oakland.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 26, 2023, 3:14 pmQuote from Jeremy Hill on January 26, 2023, 2:47 pmDifferent organizations have different evaluations. Oakland seems to be going after contact oriented speedsters. First it was Ruiz and now this kid. I'm a little surprised at the return, but there seem to be some questions about how Irvin will do outside of Oakland.
We should go after Blackburn 💯 now
Quote from Jeremy Hill on January 26, 2023, 2:47 pmDifferent organizations have different evaluations. Oakland seems to be going after contact oriented speedsters. First it was Ruiz and now this kid. I'm a little surprised at the return, but there seem to be some questions about how Irvin will do outside of Oakland.
We should go after Blackburn 💯 now
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 2, 2023, 7:17 pmhttps://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1621323331554115585?t=zUz1msNzrToGWqtR02XT5A&s=19
Apperantely Senga had some issues with his physical too... never good for a Pitcher
Mets and Senga worked it out, but realistically his physical impacted his deal https://t.co/4snMT0bSa3
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) February 3, 2023
Apperantely Senga had some issues with his physical too... never good for a Pitcher
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 2, 2023, 7:53 pmhttps://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1621330540161794049?t=W8aUQZl2Q2scudUbTfFIVQ&s=19
How can the VWL draw 40k a game in Caracas and Marlins +Rays combine for less than 20k per in Florida?
Ambiente en el Estadio 🏟 Monumental de Caracas "Simón Bolívar", también conocido como Estadio de Béisbol de La Rinconada.@z101digital @ZDeportes pic.twitter.com/oc9PF3UX1s
— Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) February 3, 2023
How can the VWL draw 40k a game in Caracas and Marlins +Rays combine for less than 20k per in Florida?
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 2, 2023, 8:02 pmhttps://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1620958559793217536?t=gKHHDBOnhxI9gN5kxVwh6w&s=19
In fact Venezuela has 2 new stadiums as good if not the 2 best in South America now.. no wonder we've been seeing more and more Intl players from Venezuela in the last 1/2 decade.. they are turning into a beisbol 1st country like the DR.. and away from Futbol as #1 one of a few countries in South America without Futbol as the #1;sport in their country now..
Impresionante! pic.twitter.com/PMfIroJuDY
— Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) February 2, 2023
In fact Venezuela has 2 new stadiums as good if not the 2 best in South America now.. no wonder we've been seeing more and more Intl players from Venezuela in the last 1/2 decade.. they are turning into a beisbol 1st country like the DR.. and away from Futbol as #1 one of a few countries in South America without Futbol as the #1;sport in their country now..
Quote from Randy Manese on February 11, 2023, 11:59 pmFanGraphs just published the Pirates top 43 minor league prospects for 2023 and none of the 3 the Padres included in the Joe Musgrove trade are on that list. The 3 were OF Hudson Head, LHP Omar Cruz and RHP Drake Fellows - Head was on some lists last year but the two pitchers have not developed thus far although Fellows has had some injuries. Padres did give up Joey Lucchesi (who subsequently had TJ surgery) to the Mets and a very good closer to the Pirates, David Bednar, but for what Joe Musgrove does for the Padres both on and off the field makes this trade one of Preller's best ever!
FanGraphs just published the Pirates top 43 minor league prospects for 2023 and none of the 3 the Padres included in the Joe Musgrove trade are on that list. The 3 were OF Hudson Head, LHP Omar Cruz and RHP Drake Fellows - Head was on some lists last year but the two pitchers have not developed thus far although Fellows has had some injuries. Padres did give up Joey Lucchesi (who subsequently had TJ surgery) to the Mets and a very good closer to the Pirates, David Bednar, but for what Joe Musgrove does for the Padres both on and off the field makes this trade one of Preller's best ever!
Quote from fenn68 on February 12, 2023, 1:00 amHighlights the failure rate of "prospects".
I recall the angst in trade Xavier Edwards (Padres #4 prospect and a MLB Top 100) in the Pham/Cronenworth deal. Edwards still languishes in the MiL and has been traded from the Rays to the Marlins. Renfroe also went in the deal but was moved by the Rays after one bad season.
Padres have Cronenworth ... a good deal by Preller ... and maybe a sign that the may have a better evaluation of his prospects than we do.
Highlights the failure rate of "prospects".
I recall the angst in trade Xavier Edwards (Padres #4 prospect and a MLB Top 100) in the Pham/Cronenworth deal. Edwards still languishes in the MiL and has been traded from the Rays to the Marlins. Renfroe also went in the deal but was moved by the Rays after one bad season.
Padres have Cronenworth ... a good deal by Preller ... and maybe a sign that the may have a better evaluation of his prospects than we do.




