Quote from fenn68 on June 4, 2026, 12:46 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on June 3, 2026, 10:34 pm

I guess when Campy is ready, Fermin might make a DL visit?

How many years does Jake have on his deal?

A fair chance ... or maybe just optioned.

Hard to single out Fermin from the total futility of the team offense ... but he too was way better before this season. From 2023-25 (290 games / 950 PA) he hit 266/311/371 ... so no small sample size ... and in the top 1/3rd in dWAR.

This year 130/233/170 and dropped well down the defensive stats.

As hard to explain as the Machado - Merrill struggles ... he just is not that high profile but also could rebound. At least he has some ML success as opposed to Duran or Hunt.

Some seem to think he is not handling being the #1 catcher ... but that should not be that much of an impact ... more concerned that he is now 31 (catchers can fall off quickly as they hit their 30s) then has taken a lot of hits to the head on foul tips ... would not discount that being an impact. The bat is off but what is maybe as concerning is his inability to make a decent throw to 2B recently (and he was very good with those throws last season).

3 more years of control but those are at ages 32-33-34 in arbitration off a current $2.1MM base ... when Campy returns and expecting Salas in 2027 ... might see a non-tender next winter unless Fermin makes a major comeback in the second half.

Quote from ultratvfan on June 4, 2026, 1:49 pm

The Padres have lost 9 of their last 10 games and are only 3 games above a .500 record. Another solid starting pitching wasted.

Here is another way of looking at it. 6 of the 9 losses came against the Phillies, who the Padres have a hard time with just about every season.

Now the Padres have put them behind in the regular season. Let's hope the Padres offense start clicking.

GO PADRES!

Quote from sportwarrior on June 4, 2026, 5:38 pm

June 4th. Swept by the Phillies. One win in our last 10 games. And, at this point, dead last in hits in MLB. Oh, and not just dead last. We have FORTY FEWER HITS than the Reds, who are 29th.

Dead last in BA.

Dead last in OBP.

29th in SLG by 1 point over the Mets.

Dead last in OPS.

Dead last in runs scored.

Our team batting average is the lowest at this point in the season in CLUB HISTORY.

This is a catastrophe, folks. Teams that are this bad for this long on offense aren't slumping. They're just flat out bad. And this team's lineup is too good to be bad. The problem is systemic. Our process (or lack thereof) is fundamentally flawed.

We need immediate and drastic change. Like, in the next 48 hours.

Quote from WindsorUK on June 4, 2026, 8:39 pm

It's pretty hard to fire the players at this point so I'm thinking SOMEBODY's head has to roll, Souza being the obvious choice.

And as much as I like Stammen, there's a reason pitchers are generally not chosen as managers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2 of them fired should we continue to look horrible against the horrible Mets.

Quote from BoosterSD on June 5, 2026, 3:38 am

Quote from WindsorUK on June 4, 2026, 8:39 pm

It's pretty hard to fire the players at this point so I'm thinking SOMEBODY's head has to roll, Souza being the obvious choice.

And as much as I like Stammen, there's a reason pitchers are generally not chosen as managers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2 of them fired should we continue to look horrible against the horrible Mets.

While a few days ago I mentioned the jettison of Souza (odd choice from the start IMO) and he could become the scape goat, I just dont see Preller firing Stammen. That would be another mis-hire at manager for Preller. He has been in the past, criticized for managerial hires, especially hiring rookie managers that he can push around such as Tingler, Green, and now Stammen. Plus, there is a reason that long time experienced managers dont stick around long, and its got to be Preller and his front office.

So firing Stammen would/could be the final nail in the coffin for Preller, and I dont see Preller doing that. Could the new owners be in place soon enough that a prolonged losing streak could mean the end of Preller and Stammen, maybe, but probably not.

I do see a top to bottom evaluation of the front office/coaching staff at the end of the season, especially if SD does not make the playoffs or gets bounced early again.

Quote from fenn68 on June 5, 2026, 5:09 am

Not sure the Padres will "over react" to their current state ... does not seem to be their style after being an organization that has made the playoffs 4 of the last 6 seasons and has not had a losing season since 2021.

To the fans the past month and especially the last 10 games are depressing. Yet, at the core these are proven good hitters who, I believe, will at some point get their collective acts together and least be competitive ... when is the critical point.

Even now as the Padres fallout out of a wild card slot ... the cluster of teams vying for those slots are in a tight shot group. Three slots and teams are sitting with losses: 28 (1); 29 (4); 30 (2); 32 (1) ... so, eight teams all legitimately in play for those three slots with about 90 games to play. Given the teams in the mix ... really will not take a lot of improvement to be in the top three at the end of the season.

Although I am confident we will see a better offense at some point ... I am worried about the pitching ... starters are not going deep and in turn may be burning out the relief arms (we saw this a few seasons back). Hitting may rise while pitching may fall.

June will be critical ... and in reality league wide player movement does not start to mid July if you want to alter the club (all teams want to know where the stand before acting). Add that the Padres (if buyers) really don't have competitive trade chips for top line players.

I expect most (if not all) teams to target making the playoffs at this point with the thought that is a good season and "anything can happen once in the playoffs". Division leaders are pulling away ... so a bit of a single focus going forward. Padres are likely in that mindset.

Very difficult for any team while still in the possibility of a playoff slot to turn to being a seller ... bad for the rest of the team and bad for the fans. Although, if the World Series is your objective and take a cold hard look at the team ... may see that the odds of going forward in the  playoffs are quite low and the future seasons looks to be projecting downward ... selling may be the pragmatic think to do. Padres are in that situation ... frankly don't have the starting pitching to handle the likes of LAD, ATL, MILW in a seven game set even if the bats come around and potentially half the team could be FA after the season with no near term prospects (except Salas) suggesting a major fall off in 2027 no matter what.

With that picture ... Padres COULD choose to be seller if losing contact with the pack seeking the playoffs. They do have a lot of desirable ML trade chips that could yield some good prospects for the future in a rebuild mode. Miller (clearly a big chip) but the FA to be Morejon and Adam would upgrade most bullpens and yield a good prospect. Would not put it past the likes of Buehler, Canning, Giolito ... if they just pitch competently ... also yield a fringe prospect. Pitching (especially rentals) is always a need.

Could go a lot of ways in the next 6(?) weeks.

Quote from fenn68 on June 5, 2026, 5:33 am

Not sure why but the final league approval of the new owners will take a bit longer per Manfred (summer?).

Maybe a legal issue but really have heard nothing from the potential new owners ... so no insight on how they are approaching new ownership.

Given the CBA negotiation and potential lockout ... the new owners may not want to make instant changes during that turmoil and wait until they get a more hands on feel on how the league works. Additionally, have no idea whether they have already hired "baseball" advisors to manage the transition.

No idea how this translates to the Padres but consider that Clearlake Financial (Filiciano) owns 61.5% of Chelsea Football Club ... Eldridge Industrials (Todd Boehly) owns 12.8% ... yet Boehly runs the day to day operations. Note is Boehly is also connected with the Dodgers and Lakers. He is the target of the Chelsea fans who consider his management a disaster. Not (as far as I know) connected with the Padres. Point being, we have no idea who will be running the day to day control even if Feliciano is the majority owner.

Quote from sportwarrior on June 5, 2026, 10:05 am

Quote from fenn68 on June 5, 2026, 5:09 am

Not sure the Padres will "over react" to their current state ... does not seem to be their style after being an organization that has made the playoffs 4 of the last 6 seasons and has not had a losing season since 2021.

To the fans the past month and especially the last 10 games are depressing. Yet, at the core these are proven good hitters who, I believe, will at some point get their collective acts together and least be competitive ... when is the critical point.

Even now as the Padres fallout out of a wild card slot ... the cluster of teams vying for those slots are in a tight shot group. Three slots and teams are sitting with losses: 28 (1); 29 (4); 30 (2); 32 (1) ... so, eight teams all legitimately in play for those three slots with about 90 games to play. Given the teams in the mix ... really will not take a lot of improvement to be in the top three at the end of the season.

Although I am confident we will see a better offense at some point ... I am worried about the pitching ... starters are not going deep and in turn may be burning out the relief arms (we saw this a few seasons back). Hitting may rise while pitching may fall.

June will be critical ... and in reality league wide player movement does not start to mid July if you want to alter the club (all teams want to know where the stand before acting). Add that the Padres (if buyers) really don't have competitive trade chips for top line players.

I expect most (if not all) teams to target making the playoffs at this point with the thought that is a good season and "anything can happen once in the playoffs". Division leaders are pulling away ... so a bit of a single focus going forward. Padres are likely in that mindset.

Very difficult for any team while still in the possibility of a playoff slot to turn to being a seller ... bad for the rest of the team and bad for the fans. Although, if the World Series is your objective and take a cold hard look at the team ... may see that the odds of going forward in the  playoffs are quite low and the future seasons looks to be projecting downward ... selling may be the pragmatic think to do. Padres are in that situation ... frankly don't have the starting pitching to handle the likes of LAD, ATL, MILW in a seven game set even if the bats come around and potentially half the team could be FA after the season with no near term prospects (except Salas) suggesting a major fall off in 2027 no matter what.

With that picture ... Padres COULD choose to be seller if losing contact with the pack seeking the playoffs. They do have a lot of desirable ML trade chips that could yield some good prospects for the future in a rebuild mode. Miller (clearly a big chip) but the FA to be Morejon and Adam would upgrade most bullpens and yield a good prospect. Would not put it past the likes of Buehler, Canning, Giolito ... if they just pitch competently ... also yield a fringe prospect. Pitching (especially rentals) is always a need.

Could go a lot of ways in the next 6(?) weeks.

Zero change that Stammen gets fired, imo. I'm not even sure they fire Souza. What needs to happen, though, is that they completely re-evaluate the intelligence and information that they convey to the players and how they convey it. It's a poorly kept secret that Padres hitters have on more than a few occasions been caught off guard by how pitchers attack them in games. In other words, not only have our guys looked unprepared in games, they've actually been unprepared. At this point in the season, given our players' track records, I have to believe the information problem is a significant reason behind our poor performance. Either way, that can't happen, and we need to fix it asap.

Quote from Jeremy Hill on June 5, 2026, 4:02 pm

Just read that Laureano had hip surgery and is likely done for the season. Estrada is going back on the IL as well.