Quote from BoosterSD on November 22, 2022, 10:21 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 22, 2022, 10:15 am

Cedric Mullins ?? In a trade involving Grish +++ BP arms and prospects might be the best solution.. his OBP is not ideal high .320s but he hasn't had Soto/Manny/Tatis protection behind him either... he has gone north of .350 previously ..can he do it again?? Grish WAR 2.6.. Mullins 3.8 so we need to add a good prospect and 2 BP arms

BAL, after their success last season is going into compete mode. I dont think they move Mullins to be honest.

They have the OF depth to do it.. and need BP arms (compete mode) and SP.. why I thought of them.. Grish + Morejon + Wilson + Rosario could be a solid package for Both teams..we may have to add 1 of Henry Williams or Mazur to the mix (2025 ETA) down the line SP to get the deal over the top...and who knows they may prefer Cosgrove and Baez for more control or the other way Garcia + for a high leverage/even Closer vet..

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 22, 2022, 10:34 am

Quote from BoosterSD on November 22, 2022, 10:21 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 22, 2022, 10:15 am

Cedric Mullins ?? In a trade involving Grish +++ BP arms and prospects might be the best solution.. his OBP is not ideal high .320s but he hasn't had Soto/Manny/Tatis protection behind him either... he has gone north of .350 previously ..can he do it again?? Grish WAR 2.6.. Mullins 3.8 so we need to add a good prospect and 2 BP arms

BAL, after their success last season is going into compete mode. I dont think they move Mullins to be honest.

They have the OF depth to do it.. and need BP arms (compete mode) and SP.. why I thought of them.. Grish + Morejon + Wilson + Rosario could be a solid package for Both teams..we may have to add 1 of Henry Williams or Mazur to the mix (2025 ETA) down the line SP to get the deal over the top...and who knows they may prefer Cosgrove and Baez for more control or the other way Garcia + for a high leverage/even Closer vet..

Think you are under-estimating BALT and their direction this winter.

First of all they finished the season at 83-79 but impressively after July 1 they were 48-36 ... 12 games over .500 is very good in a very good AL East.

Second, at this point, they have a very low $43MM+/- payroll ... and have said they are willing to spend more given their team is on the verge of making the playoffs. So, think FA.

Mullins is their lead-off hitter, plus defense, and with 3 years control (now about $4.4MM). One of the better CF (all around) in MLB.

I see no incentive for BALT to deal Mullins ... but if they did they would need a quality established ML piece(s) in return. My understanding they are looking at the FA SS market (to replace Mateo) for added offense and SP with Means out with arm surgery.

With the Padres needing bats and SP ... don't really have a match.

That’s not even mentioning they have possibly the best pitching prospect in baseball ready for 23’ in Grayson Rodriguez and also a decent one in LHP DL Hall.

I know that individual player projections are nothing to rely on but did look at Fangraph's (Steamer) player projections for 2023 ... encouraging.

1. Soto with a 7.1 WAR is the #1 player in MLB
2. Tatis with a 5.8 WAR is the #5 player in MLB and listed as the #1 SS ... if he delivered that WAR in LF he would be the best LF over Alvarez (5.3) and way ahead of the rest of the pack that tops at 3.8.
3. Machado with a 4.9 WAR is the 17th player in MLB ... 4th 3B.

That is a pretty impressive set of three all in the top 17 in MLB. Then

4. Kim with a 3.4 WAR is #56

5. Cronenworth with a 3.1 WAR is #76

6/7. rounding the players are Grisham (2.5) and Nola (1.5)

That bodes will for a productive offense even if the Padres don't add major impact bats. Plus if you by a 1 WAR player should be in the $8-10MM range ... all seven are producing better than that salary.

Padres make Nick Martinez signing official.
Martinez gets $10 mil in ‘23.
Should he do well as a starter, team can exercise option after ‘23 that would pay him $16 mil in ‘24 & $16 mil in ‘25.
If team declines, Martinez has option for $8 mil in “24 and another for $8 mil in ‘25.

— Kevin Acee (@sdutKevinAcee) November 22, 2022

So what type of season triggers AJP "team option"..since Anderson got $13 mil for near CY #'s

10-6 3.25 or better = $16

10-6 4.25 = $8 Martinez option??

In between do Padres offer $16 per or let him walk.. does Martinez accept $8?

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 22, 2022, 1:42 pm

https://twitter.com/sdutKevinAcee/status/1595169144634191876?t=Mw_aSPwbQdBA1tO1WAZ8tA&s=19

So what type of season triggers AJP "team option"..since Anderson got $13 mil for near CY #'s

10-6 3.25 or better = $16

10-6 4.25 = $8 Martinez option??

In between do Padres offer $16 per or let him walk.. does Martinez accept $8?

Not sure what Martinez needs to do to get the Padres exercise the $16MM option … that is a pretty penny even in this market … would guess Darvish / Musgrove type numbers in both ERA and innings. So maybe 3.50 ERA and average near 6 innings over 30 starts.

On the flip side, if Martinez does not cut it as a starter and is returned to his RP role in the second half … he may take the $8MM (which is about right for that role).

Martinez opts out if he is an “adequate” SP … and he wants to start … but even with a 4.00+ ERA (see Manaea / Clevinger) and pitches enough innings he should get in the $10-12MM zone. A lot of grey area but SP are always in demand so will not be without a home at no worse than $8MM.

OFFICIAL: The Angels today acquired OF Hunter Renfroe from the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for RHP Janson Junk, RHP Elvis Peguero and minor league LHP Adam Seminaris. pic.twitter.com/YmVUc2TTS1

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) November 23, 2022

Wonder if we can get Tellez for a similar bag of balls.. or Lauer

Hunter Renfroe just traded to the LAA, for 3 pitchers.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/angels-acquire-hunter-renfroe-from-brewers.html

Quote from BoosterSD on November 22, 2022, 7:43 pm

Hunter Renfroe just traded to the LAA, for 3

Quote from BoosterSD on November 22, 2022, 7:43 pm

Hunter Renfroe just traded to the LAA, for 3 pitchers.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/angels-acquire-hunter-renfroe-from-brewers.html

 

 

These 3 P's make Wethers look like CY...

Wethers for Lauer... Lets Go!

Wethers for Tellez... Lets Go!