Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 10:44 am

I think Kim has very good trade value, just not to OAK.

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 12:23 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 10:37 am

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 9:03 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:54 am

 

I love Kim.. But if I can flip him for Sean Murphy for 2023 I'd do it in a heart beat.. for his production Kim has huge surplus value on his current deal and A's have top C prospects who are ready for the MLB.. i don't think we need to add anything to Kim to get Sean... BUT if they want Alfaro + Kim I am cool with that too.. it Upgrades C.. it opens up an opportunity for Rosario (Kim's role) and Campusano DH/3rd C..(Nola too cheap $$ too trade)...

Then Drury 1B/DH...2B/3B/OF versatility ..takes over 1B (more pop than Bell..younger , more versatile and 60% or more cheaper to sign...

We would be

1B Drury...2B Crone ..3B Machado..SS Tatis jr..C Sean Murphy.. RF Soto...LF??? CF?? DH Campusano

Bench- Rosario 3B/2B/SS.. Nola C/2B.. Grisham CF/OF... 4th Bench ???

Knowing that Grish in CF is at worst = to 2022..if we can get Profar back this team is > on Opening Day...without any other moves..

You're crazy if you think OAK is trading Murphy straight up for Kim. If AJ could have pulled off that deal, he would have done that at the deadline this season.

Kim is a very good player, but does nothing the for the long view of OAK. by the time the rest of their team would be ready, Kim would be a FA. OAK is probably lookin for 2 top level prospects, and 1 mid level, and a 4th thrown in type package for Murphy. I dont even know who we would be able to entice OAK with prospect wise. As Fenn mentioned in the other thread, probably starts with Merrill and then 3 more.

Kim 3.1 WAR at the most important position in baseball... Sean Murphy 2 1 WAR at the 2nd most important position... lets not undervalue Kim

It's not the value it's the cost and control.

Oak would be going from a Catcher they control cheaply for 3 years to a SS they control at $7 mil for two years.

I believe we roll with the Catchers we have in 23' anyway....use any payroll,or trade assets, (if we even have any) for pitching.

 

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 4:03 pm

I am almost positive that Kim will be our starting SS or 2B next year.

Quote from WindsorUK on August 11, 2022, 5:31 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 4:03 pm

I am almost positive that Kim will be our starting SS or 2B next year.

Cronenworth will definitely have trade value in the off season. Could certainly see him getting moved to bring in an arm, or preferably, an OF bat

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:31 pm

Gained 1/2 a game on St Louis and Phillies today.. as they both loss to Losing teams (Colorado and Miami).. Time to get to Work in DC!

Quote from dusty on August 12, 2022, 4:30 am

Gaining that 1/2 game on an off day is sweet. Big weekend coming up. Could stage a wild wild card race for the top spot. Padres 3 games at Washington meanwhile Braves at Marlins in inter division and the Mets host the Phillies for 3. Can see the Padres pulling within 2 of the Braves and moving 2 ahead of the Phillies.

Quote from fenn68 on August 12, 2022, 8:39 am

Probably more concerned about MILW catching up to the Padres and knocking them out of the playoffs than catching PHIL/ATL for a better playoff position. Padres are listed as one game ahead of MILW but they have played four more games (3-1). So, looking at the loss column the Padres have one MORE loss than MILW and if MILW wins the four games differential they bump SD ... and SD can't do anything about it.

With that line of thought, avoiding any careless loss is imperative. One loss can be the difference as the Padres head down the final stretch (48 games). So, when it comes to who plays and who does not ... it should be a decision based on current production and not the hope of past performance or future potential.

That brings me to when they bring back Tatis and where they use him. Media / fans want the "old" Tatis back ASAP ... but no indication based on his limited SA work that he is his old self yet. Consider that he has only played 18 innings at SS (and with two errors ... one fielding one throwing) and zero innings in CF due to wet grounds. 9 AB .. .222 BA.

Think (right now) it is a big defense risk to bump Kim for Tatis at SS or even Grisham in CF ... one bad play can lead to a loss ... and so far his bat does not look strong enough to make up for that. Maybe needs more rehab work and maybe when he returns ... DH a lot?

 

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 12, 2022, 8:46 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 12, 2022, 8:39 am

Probably more concerned about MILW catching up to the Padres and knocking them out of the playoffs than catching PHIL/ATL for a better playoff position. Padres are listed as one game ahead of MILW but they have played four more games (3-1). So, looking at the loss column the Padres have one MORE loss than MILW and if MILW wins the four games differential they bump SD ... and SD can't do anything about it.

With that line of thought, avoiding any careless loss is imperative. One loss can be the difference as the Padres head down the final stretch (48 games). So, when it comes to who plays and who does not ... it should be a decision based on current production and not the hope of past performance or future potential.

That brings me to when they bring back Tatis and where they use him. Media / fans want the "old" Tatis back ASAP ... but no indication based on his limited SA work that he is his old self yet. Consider that he has only played 18 innings at SS (and with two errors ... one fielding one throwing) and zero innings in CF due to wet grounds. 9 AB .. .222 BA.

Think (right now) it is a big defense risk to bump Kim for Tatis at SS or even Grisham in CF ... one bad play can lead to a loss ... and so far his bat does not look strong enough to make up for that. Maybe needs more rehab work and maybe when he returns ... DH a lot?

Brewers have the hardest remaining schedule out of all the WC teams and is not even close

 

 

We also hold the tie breaker vs Brewers as we beat them for the season series.. so a tie = a win.. so they have to go 4-1 ... another thing is ..we play 7 vs the Nats in out next 10 games  . They play 7 vs LAD

Next 3 Stl

LAD 4

Cubs 3

LAD 3

That's a real hard stretch

And the Mets and Phillies (only .5 games ahead of us) are head to head as well.. if we need a defining road trip this is it.. 6-0 would be sweet . 5-1/4-2 at worst... need to win Game #1 tonight..period end of story!

It's Go Time!...Lets Go Padres!

Quote from lafnboy13 on August 12, 2022, 4:00 pm

WTF! Tatis with an 80 game PED suspension!!!