Quote from BoosterSD on August 10, 2022, 12:47 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on August 10, 2022, 12:00 pm

Kim since July 1st against RHP is at .281/.343/.422 and he's still killing lefties too. His overall line is at .301/.348/.437 in that span. He's looking a lot more comfortable against righties and velocity. He just keeps getting better and has turned into a damn good player.

Which leads to the everlasting question on this board, what do you do with two All Star level SS?

Keep Tatis at SS, and trade Kim for CBT room and prospects? Or, move Tatis to the OF and keep Kim at SS? Or the final option, Tatis at SS, Kim at 2B, and move Crone to 1B?

I go back and forth on this all the time........

Quote from lafnboy13 on August 11, 2022, 3:49 am

Quote from BoosterSD on August 10, 2022, 12:47 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on August 10, 2022, 12:00 pm

Kim since July 1st against RHP is at .281/.343/.422 and he's still killing lefties too. His overall line is at .301/.348/.437 in that span. He's looking a lot more comfortable against righties and velocity. He just keeps getting better and has turned into a damn good player.

Which leads to the everlasting question on this board, what do you do with two All Star level SS?

Keep Tatis at SS, and trade Kim for CBT room and prospects? Or, move Tatis to the OF and keep Kim at SS? Or the final option, Tatis at SS, Kim at 2B, and move Crone to 1B?

I go back and forth on this all the time........

Defensively, Crone is great at 1B. Offensively, is numbers do not match the position. You might as well pout Tatis at 1B or dare I say, Manny? It's a goodish problem to have but everyone will know the situation and I doubt we will get full value for Kim in a free agency period that has a good supply of SS. Only teams wanting to save money will want to make that move; think middling teams trying to get a wild card on a budget.

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 5:28 am

Kim allows us the ability to give Tatis,Manny,Crone,Bell all DH days.

He should start somewhere against "all" lefties and fill in when Melvin wants/needs to get someone off their feet some.....bumps/bruises/fatigue etc.

His value lies in his versatility and his defense....his offense is a bonus at this point.While i agree he ahs been hitting well lately and would benefit from playing everyday....I don't want Tatis playing everyday in the OF or at DH.

Could still get creative and get Kim 4 starts a week in the field.

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 6:07 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 5:28 am

Kim allows us the ability to give Tatis,Manny,Crone,Bell all DH days.

He should start somewhere against "all" lefties and fill in when Melvin wants/needs to get someone off their feet some.....bumps/bruises/fatigue etc.

His value lies in his versatility and his defense....his offense is a bonus at this point.While i agree he ahs been hitting well lately and would benefit from playing everyday....I don't want Tatis playing everyday in the OF or at DH.

Could still get creative and get Kim 4 starts a week in the field.

But at the cost of $7MM in 2023 and $8MM in 2024 for a part-time player? Can that money be more productive by being used to boost the pay for a needs full time position player? Have to factor in the belief in Rosario stepping up as that reserve INF at league minimum.

Quote from lafnboy13 on August 11, 2022, 8:48 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 6:07 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 5:28 am

Kim allows us the ability to give Tatis,Manny,Crone,Bell all DH days.

He should start somewhere against "all" lefties and fill in when Melvin wants/needs to get someone off their feet some.....bumps/bruises/fatigue etc.

His value lies in his versatility and his defense....his offense is a bonus at this point.While i agree he ahs been hitting well lately and would benefit from playing everyday....I don't want Tatis playing everyday in the OF or at DH.

Could still get creative and get Kim 4 starts a week in the field.

But at the cost of $7MM in 2023 and $8MM in 2024 for a part-time player? Can that money be more productive by being used to boost the pay for a needs full time position player? Have to factor in the belief in Rosario stepping up as that reserve INF at league minimum.

It depends how you frame "part time player" If you are rotating DH with Machado, Tatis, and whomever then you would not need a full time DH and you will keep your thumpers fresh. A good use of 7m without creating a new hole.

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 8:49 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 6:07 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 5:28 am

Kim allows us the ability to give Tatis,Manny,Crone,Bell all DH days.

He should start somewhere against "all" lefties and fill in when Melvin wants/needs to get someone off their feet some.....bumps/bruises/fatigue etc.

His value lies in his versatility and his defense....his offense is a bonus at this point.While i agree he ahs been hitting well lately and would benefit from playing everyday....I don't want Tatis playing everyday in the OF or at DH.

Could still get creative and get Kim 4 starts a week in the field.

But at the cost of $7MM in 2023 and $8MM in 2024 for a part-time player? Can that money be more productive by being used to boost the pay for a needs full time position player? Have to factor in the belief in Rosario stepping up as that reserve INF at league minimum.

Oh I’d be all for moving him and adding a starter or another outfielder.

Just think AJ likes having Kim in case of injury(like this year) and versatility.

I’d be fine either way….just speculating how he would be used if everyone is healthy and we keep him.

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:54 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 6:07 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 11, 2022, 5:28 am

Kim allows us the ability to give Tatis,Manny,Crone,Bell all DH days.

He should start somewhere against "all" lefties and fill in when Melvin wants/needs to get someone off their feet some.....bumps/bruises/fatigue etc.

His value lies in his versatility and his defense....his offense is a bonus at this point.While i agree he ahs been hitting well lately and would benefit from playing everyday....I don't want Tatis playing everyday in the OF or at DH.

Could still get creative and get Kim 4 starts a week in the field.

But at the cost of $7MM in 2023 and $8MM in 2024 for a part-time player? Can that money be more productive by being used to boost the pay for a needs full time position player? Have to factor in the belief in Rosario stepping up as that reserve INF at league minimum.

I love Kim.. But if I can flip him for Sean Murphy for 2023 I'd do it in a heart beat.. for his production Kim has huge surplus value on his current deal and A's have top C prospects who are ready for the MLB.. i don't think we need to add anything to Kim to get Sean... BUT if they want Alfaro + Kim I am cool with that too.. it Upgrades C.. it opens up an opportunity for Rosario (Kim's role) and Campusano DH/3rd C..(Nola too cheap $$ too trade)...

Then Drury 1B/DH...2B/3B/OF versatility ..takes over 1B (more pop than Bell..younger , more versatile and 60% or more cheaper to sign...

We would be

1B Drury...2B Crone ..3B Machado..SS Tatis jr..C Sean Murphy.. RF Soto...LF??? CF?? DH Campusano

Bench- Rosario 3B/2B/SS.. Nola C/2B.. Grisham CF/OF... 4th Bench ???

Knowing that Grish in CF is at worst = to 2022..if we can get Profar back this team is > on Opening Day...without any other moves..

Quote from lafnboy13 on August 11, 2022, 8:59 am

I just noticed the 2023 thread. I am continuing my thoughts on this over there.

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 9:03 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:54 am

 

I love Kim.. But if I can flip him for Sean Murphy for 2023 I'd do it in a heart beat.. for his production Kim has huge surplus value on his current deal and A's have top C prospects who are ready for the MLB.. i don't think we need to add anything to Kim to get Sean... BUT if they want Alfaro + Kim I am cool with that too.. it Upgrades C.. it opens up an opportunity for Rosario (Kim's role) and Campusano DH/3rd C..(Nola too cheap $$ too trade)...

Then Drury 1B/DH...2B/3B/OF versatility ..takes over 1B (more pop than Bell..younger , more versatile and 60% or more cheaper to sign...

We would be

1B Drury...2B Crone ..3B Machado..SS Tatis jr..C Sean Murphy.. RF Soto...LF??? CF?? DH Campusano

Bench- Rosario 3B/2B/SS.. Nola C/2B.. Grisham CF/OF... 4th Bench ???

Knowing that Grish in CF is at worst = to 2022..if we can get Profar back this team is > on Opening Day...without any other moves..

You're crazy if you think OAK is trading Murphy straight up for Kim. If AJ could have pulled off that deal, he would have done that at the deadline this season.

Kim is a very good player, but does nothing the for the long view of OAK. by the time the rest of their team would be ready, Kim would be a FA. OAK is probably lookin for 2 top level prospects, and 1 mid level, and a 4th thrown in type package for Murphy. I dont even know who we would be able to entice OAK with prospect wise. As Fenn mentioned in the other thread, probably starts with Merrill and then 3 more.