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Quote from 84padres on June 27, 2021, 3:51 pmI really think we should try and trade for Merrill Kelly. Not so much as he is good but to keep him from LA or SF. He just shut out the Padres for six innings and is now 7-2 with a 2.60 ERA in 10 starts against them in his career. The last thing we need is him pitching against us in the playoffs .
I really think we should try and trade for Merrill Kelly. Not so much as he is good but to keep him from LA or SF. He just shut out the Padres for six innings and is now 7-2 with a 2.60 ERA in 10 starts against them in his career. The last thing we need is him pitching against us in the playoffs .
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 3:51 pmQuote from 84padres on June 27, 2021, 3:33 pmQuote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 2:38 pmLamet to the 10 day DL with forearm fatigue.
Norcraft( sp?) brought up.
Surprised Weathers isn't up. He's already stretched out as much as Snell and Lamet.
We will need Weathers when Lamets turn comes up. In the meantime we have an extra reliever .
That does make sense.
Be good to have Weathers back. Kid can pitch.
Quote from 84padres on June 27, 2021, 3:33 pmQuote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 2:38 pmLamet to the 10 day DL with forearm fatigue.
Norcraft( sp?) brought up.
Surprised Weathers isn't up. He's already stretched out as much as Snell and Lamet.
We will need Weathers when Lamets turn comes up. In the meantime we have an extra reliever .
That does make sense.
Be good to have Weathers back. Kid can pitch.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 3:55 pmI know, right? At least if he gets the DP, we get something out of it.
Even Mud and Orsillo knew he should have come home. Wonder what the kid was thinking? Seems to me he may not have known the score/ or situation?
I know, right? At least if he gets the DP, we get something out of it.
Even Mud and Orsillo knew he should have come home. Wonder what the kid was thinking? Seems to me he may not have known the score/ or situation?
Quote from fenn68 on June 27, 2021, 4:00 pmDon’t think it is lock that Weathers gets the call for the next start … they may opt for a bullpen day.
With Monday off … the starts for Musgrove, Snell, and Paddack come with an extra day rest and then next Friday Darvish could start on normal rest. So the next “open” start would be next Saturday then the slot would come up again the following Thursday. After that the All-Star break re-sets every thing.
So the call may be right to the wire depending on how heavily the pen was used next Tuesday - Friday … the perception of Lamet’s return date … and the perception of the return dates for Pomeranz / Johnson.
It is still possible (maybe unlikely) Lamet could return for that 2nd start (although likely to keep him out and use the extra time from the All-Star break for recovery.
If the Padres’ plan with Weathers was to manage his innings so he can be a factor later in the season … may not be the first option to recall him now.
Don’t think it is lock that Weathers gets the call for the next start … they may opt for a bullpen day.
With Monday off … the starts for Musgrove, Snell, and Paddack come with an extra day rest and then next Friday Darvish could start on normal rest. So the next “open” start would be next Saturday then the slot would come up again the following Thursday. After that the All-Star break re-sets every thing.
So the call may be right to the wire depending on how heavily the pen was used next Tuesday - Friday … the perception of Lamet’s return date … and the perception of the return dates for Pomeranz / Johnson.
It is still possible (maybe unlikely) Lamet could return for that 2nd start (although likely to keep him out and use the extra time from the All-Star break for recovery.
If the Padres’ plan with Weathers was to manage his innings so he can be a factor later in the season … may not be the first option to recall him now.
Quote from fenn68 on June 27, 2021, 4:16 pmQuote from 84padres on June 27, 2021, 3:51 pmI really think we should try and trade for Merrill Kelly. Not so much as he is good but to keep him from LA or SF. He just shut out the Padres for six innings and is now 7-2 with a 2.60 ERA in 10 starts against them in his career. The last thing we need is him pitching against us in the playoffs .
Well Preller has to be on the phone with a shift in his priorities to adding a “reliable” SP.
Darvish and Musgrove are reliable workhorses … then: Snell and Paddack make their starts (maybe a bit of a question on length/quality). Weather is being innings managed. That group of five likely not pitch the innings to get them to the end of the season.
Minors do not have a SP ready for the ML in a pennant race.
Looking at Lamet, not sure he will be even available for the rest of the season … even if he returns good chance it is with major innings management and still will be a high injury risk. Hurt last October … went the non-surgical route and tried treatment / rehab … half way through 2021 and he still has an issue even with IL stints / controlled innings.
Shifting my priority from back-end RP to back-end SP.
Quote from 84padres on June 27, 2021, 3:51 pmI really think we should try and trade for Merrill Kelly. Not so much as he is good but to keep him from LA or SF. He just shut out the Padres for six innings and is now 7-2 with a 2.60 ERA in 10 starts against them in his career. The last thing we need is him pitching against us in the playoffs .
Well Preller has to be on the phone with a shift in his priorities to adding a “reliable” SP.
Darvish and Musgrove are reliable workhorses … then: Snell and Paddack make their starts (maybe a bit of a question on length/quality). Weather is being innings managed. That group of five likely not pitch the innings to get them to the end of the season.
Minors do not have a SP ready for the ML in a pennant race.
Looking at Lamet, not sure he will be even available for the rest of the season … even if he returns good chance it is with major innings management and still will be a high injury risk. Hurt last October … went the non-surgical route and tried treatment / rehab … half way through 2021 and he still has an issue even with IL stints / controlled innings.
Shifting my priority from back-end RP to back-end SP.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 4:18 pmGood theory, Fenn.
I for one would like to see Weathers come up, start, and be in the rotation until the end of the season. And if that means coming up after All Star break, I'm for it.
Good theory, Fenn.
I for one would like to see Weathers come up, start, and be in the rotation until the end of the season. And if that means coming up after All Star break, I'm for it.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 4:20 pmQuote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 3:50 pmTatis just makes a MAJOR bonehead that could possibly cost us the game!
That throw HAS to go home! No brainer.
Rotten play by the kid.
Hope he gets a chance at redemption.
Redemption !!!
Watching baseball more this year and I see A LOT of bonehead plays. No idea the reason- maybe fundamentals being missed at earlier stages of development?
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 3:50 pmTatis just makes a MAJOR bonehead that could possibly cost us the game!
That throw HAS to go home! No brainer.
Rotten play by the kid.
Hope he gets a chance at redemption.
Redemption !!!
Watching baseball more this year and I see A LOT of bonehead plays. No idea the reason- maybe fundamentals being missed at earlier stages of development?
Quote from WindsorUK on June 27, 2021, 4:47 pmHas any player ever led his league in HR, RBI, and SB, in the same season?
Jr. is top in all 3 categories at this point.
It would be pretty incredible regardless.
Has any player ever led his league in HR, RBI, and SB, in the same season?
Jr. is top in all 3 categories at this point.
It would be pretty incredible regardless.
Quote from fenn68 on June 27, 2021, 4:56 pmOK, 80 games in … 47-33 record … in the second wild card slot (behind LAD) and 3.5 games ahead of Cubs then a big distance to CINN at 7 games behind.
Tomorrow starts a series between SF and LA in LA … could really change the gaps between SF-LAD-SD. Tuesday Padres start a series with CINN in CINN and could push them really out of the wild card race.
Can’t get complacent and need to push to win the WEST … but the odds of the playoffs are quite good and SEPT looks to be playoff like with a lot of games between SD-SF-LAD. On the plus side … 5 off days scheduled in SEPT so a good chance to manage the roster for rest.
Looking at all that, Preller’s call on roster movement may be conditioned on the best way to navigate to (and in) SEPT.
OK, 80 games in … 47-33 record … in the second wild card slot (behind LAD) and 3.5 games ahead of Cubs then a big distance to CINN at 7 games behind.
Tomorrow starts a series between SF and LA in LA … could really change the gaps between SF-LAD-SD. Tuesday Padres start a series with CINN in CINN and could push them really out of the wild card race.
Can’t get complacent and need to push to win the WEST … but the odds of the playoffs are quite good and SEPT looks to be playoff like with a lot of games between SD-SF-LAD. On the plus side … 5 off days scheduled in SEPT so a good chance to manage the roster for rest.
Looking at all that, Preller’s call on roster movement may be conditioned on the best way to navigate to (and in) SEPT.




