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Quote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:23 amI know there is more to successful pitching the FB velocity ... but just as a perspective on the likely SP for 2020 here are the 2019 average FB velocities:
96.1 ... Lamet
95.1 ... Richards (limited but coming off long layoff ... encouraging)
93.9 ... Paddack
90.2 ... Lucchesi (L)
88.5 ... Davies
That is a decent set-up for different looks from SP to SP plus each has a different profile of secondary pitches. Hopefully that keeps opponents a bit off balance game to game.
94.5 ... Quantrill is of course a candidate.
Side: Morejon threw out an average 96.4 FB.
I know there is more to successful pitching the FB velocity ... but just as a perspective on the likely SP for 2020 here are the 2019 average FB velocities:
96.1 ... Lamet
95.1 ... Richards (limited but coming off long layoff ... encouraging)
93.9 ... Paddack
90.2 ... Lucchesi (L)
88.5 ... Davies
That is a decent set-up for different looks from SP to SP plus each has a different profile of secondary pitches. Hopefully that keeps opponents a bit off balance game to game.
94.5 ... Quantrill is of course a candidate.
Side: Morejon threw out an average 96.4 FB.
Quote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:34 amSame idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Same idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 13, 2020, 8:47 amQuote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:34 amSame idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Pomz includes SP assigments-- strickly BP he was like 95-96
Quote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:34 amSame idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Pomz includes SP assigments-- strickly BP he was like 95-96
Quote from Brian Connelly on February 13, 2020, 10:46 amQuote from Henry Silvestre on February 13, 2020, 8:47 amQuote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:34 amSame idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Pomz includes SP assigments-- strickly BP he was like 95-96
Probably true for Matt Strahm too?
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 13, 2020, 8:47 amQuote from fenn68 on February 13, 2020, 8:34 amSame idea for RP:
99.9 ... Munoz
98.0 ... Guerra (that is hard to give up on with a DFA if he shows anything in ST ... IL then 30 day rehab?)
97.0 ... Reyes
96.1 ... Baez (ticketed for AA as a SP)
95.9 ... Wingenter
95.5 ... Pagan
95.3 ... Bednar (higher than I thought)
95.1 ... Castillo (L)(very limited)
94.8 ... Diaz
94.2 ... Perdomo
93.5 ... Yates
92.8 ... Stammen
92.7 ... Pomeranz (L)
91.5 ... Strahm (L)
Bolded the first 7 (my guess) leaving the 8th for maybe a Quantrill or ?
If you want changes in "looks" ... might consider one of the hard throwers if things are close among the options.
Pomz includes SP assigments-- strickly BP he was like 95-96
Probably true for Matt Strahm too?
Quote from MrPadre19 on February 13, 2020, 10:54 amWho are you guys really excited to see this spring?
Of course alot of guys but I am most interested to see what Cronenworth has to offer.
Could he be an everyday player?
Will he hit enough to be our super Utility (Ben Zobrist) player?
Is he just AAAA emergency call-up guy?
Do we let him pitch at all if he makes the 26 man?
Who are you guys really excited to see this spring?
Of course alot of guys but I am most interested to see what Cronenworth has to offer.
Could he be an everyday player?
Will he hit enough to be our super Utility (Ben Zobrist) player?
Is he just AAAA emergency call-up guy?
Do we let him pitch at all if he makes the 26 man?
Quote from onlypads on February 13, 2020, 11:13 amQuote from MrPadre19 on February 13, 2020, 10:54 amWho are you guys really excited to see this spring?
Of course alot of guys but I am most interested to see what Cronenworth has to offer.
Could he be an everyday player?
Will he hit enough to be our super Utility (Ben Zobrist) player?
Is he just AAAA emergency call-up guy?
Do we let him pitch at all if he makes the 26 man?
Want games to start! Nay, need games to star! Like you, earlier I voiced excitement to see what Cronenworth can do. Curious to see if some of the young guns like Gore, Patino, Tram, and Camp can rise to the occasion. Also interested in seeing if we choose to start Profar in a variety of positions in ST.
Quote from MrPadre19 on February 13, 2020, 10:54 amWho are you guys really excited to see this spring?
Of course alot of guys but I am most interested to see what Cronenworth has to offer.
Could he be an everyday player?
Will he hit enough to be our super Utility (Ben Zobrist) player?
Is he just AAAA emergency call-up guy?
Do we let him pitch at all if he makes the 26 man?
Want games to start! Nay, need games to star! Like you, earlier I voiced excitement to see what Cronenworth can do. Curious to see if some of the young guns like Gore, Patino, Tram, and Camp can rise to the occasion. Also interested in seeing if we choose to start Profar in a variety of positions in ST.
Quote from Brian Connelly on February 13, 2020, 11:29 amI'm most interested to see who plays: 1B, 2B, CF, RF besides the obvious guys. Look for Profar @ 1B some!
Esp, how & where they split playing time among the MANY 2B/middle INF and RH CF options incl the Non-roster guys cmpeting for last roster spots.
Last 2 pen spots battle.
Excited to see Tatis out there again (no splits in ST!) and to see Grisham.
I'm most interested to see who plays: 1B, 2B, CF, RF besides the obvious guys. Look for Profar @ 1B some!
Esp, how & where they split playing time among the MANY 2B/middle INF and RH CF options incl the Non-roster guys cmpeting for last roster spots.
Last 2 pen spots battle.
Excited to see Tatis out there again (no splits in ST!) and to see Grisham.
Quote from Brian Connelly on February 13, 2020, 11:31 amI agree that: Yates, Pom, Pagan, Stammen, Strahm & Pierce Johnson (guaranteed 5MM - 3 yrs) are "locks" in the pen due to contracts (Pagan-ability).
But don't think Jose Castillo or Andres Munoz are. FAVORITES yes, but it's 1 of these 2 guys who could make way for Guerra to stay... if he shows strongly enough in ST. Guerra an obvious trade candidate, but could also see a guy like Strahm or (flip) Pierce Johnson traded- IF Castillo, Munoz, and others on 40-man have really good ST - AND the right deal presents itself.
Can make argument Castillo & Munoz would benefit from beginning in Minors for different reasons
I agree that: Yates, Pom, Pagan, Stammen, Strahm & Pierce Johnson (guaranteed 5MM - 3 yrs) are "locks" in the pen due to contracts (Pagan-ability).
But don't think Jose Castillo or Andres Munoz are. FAVORITES yes, but it's 1 of these 2 guys who could make way for Guerra to stay... if he shows strongly enough in ST. Guerra an obvious trade candidate, but could also see a guy like Strahm or (flip) Pierce Johnson traded- IF Castillo, Munoz, and others on 40-man have really good ST - AND the right deal presents itself.
Can make argument Castillo & Munoz would benefit from beginning in Minors for different reasons




