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Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 27, 2020, 9:36 amQuote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 9:10 amHow would we rank OF in the pipeline? If we exclude Franchy, Grisham and Naylor, I think Olivares is substantially ahead of Trammel and in first spot.
If we keep Franchy, Grisham, and Naylor in the discussion, I would argue that Olivares has to be in consideration of the top spot given his mix of offensive and defensive skills. My point is this, it's at least close right?
Btw Gore raved about Arias the other day on 97.3. Only other player he raved about that I have seen is Tatis.
I am a proponent of the early call up for talented, next level guys. Not sure I am behind the seasoning school of thought for those types. They seem made for big challenges.
As far as MLB ready yes... as far as Prospect rankings no
Spec Rankings
Trammell
Ornelas
Olivares
Rosario
Head
Mena
Mears
Ona
As far as closer to or MLB ready
Olivares
Ona
Trammell
Rosario
Ornelas
Head
Mears
Mena
Quote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 9:10 amHow would we rank OF in the pipeline? If we exclude Franchy, Grisham and Naylor, I think Olivares is substantially ahead of Trammel and in first spot.
If we keep Franchy, Grisham, and Naylor in the discussion, I would argue that Olivares has to be in consideration of the top spot given his mix of offensive and defensive skills. My point is this, it's at least close right?
Btw Gore raved about Arias the other day on 97.3. Only other player he raved about that I have seen is Tatis.
I am a proponent of the early call up for talented, next level guys. Not sure I am behind the seasoning school of thought for those types. They seem made for big challenges.
As far as MLB ready yes... as far as Prospect rankings no
Spec Rankings
Trammell
Ornelas
Olivares
Rosario
Head
Mena
Mears
Ona
As far as closer to or MLB ready
Olivares
Ona
Trammell
Rosario
Ornelas
Head
Mears
Mena
Quote from Brian Connelly on February 27, 2020, 2:34 pmAnyone watching? listening? to today's game? Any info on why Morejon came out mid 2nd inning?
Anyone watching? listening? to today's game? Any info on why Morejon came out mid 2nd inning?
Quote from Jeremy Hill on February 27, 2020, 2:58 pmQuote from Brian Connelly on February 27, 2020, 2:34 pmAnyone watching? listening? to today's game? Any info on why Morejon came out mid 2nd inning?
Pitch count. Think he was at 36 when he got pulled.
Quote from Brian Connelly on February 27, 2020, 2:34 pmAnyone watching? listening? to today's game? Any info on why Morejon came out mid 2nd inning?
Pitch count. Think he was at 36 when he got pulled.
Quote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 3:47 pmStruck out Ohtani and Rendon. I was just worried he was injured, so good to hear. The word is he is in much better condition this year.
Struck out Ohtani and Rendon. I was just worried he was injured, so good to hear. The word is he is in much better condition this year.
Quote from JasonE135 on February 27, 2020, 4:15 pmQuote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 3:47 pmStruck out Ohtani and Rendon. I was just worried he was injured, so good to hear. The word is he is in much better condition this year.
He does look less pudgy and more solid this year than he did last year.
Quote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 3:47 pmStruck out Ohtani and Rendon. I was just worried he was injured, so good to hear. The word is he is in much better condition this year.
He does look less pudgy and more solid this year than he did last year.
Quote from hoffy51 on February 27, 2020, 5:51 pmPreviews of coming attractions at a ballpark near you:
Paddock
Lament
Gore
Patino
Morejon
Nunez
Baez
Weathers
wow
Previews of coming attractions at a ballpark near you:
Paddock
Lament
Gore
Patino
Morejon
Nunez
Baez
Weathers
wow
Quote from Ben Davey on February 27, 2020, 6:52 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on February 27, 2020, 9:36 amQuote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 9:10 am
As far as MLB ready yes... as far as Prospect rankings no
Spec Rankings
Trammell
Ornelas
Olivares
Rosario
Head
Mena
Mears
Ona
As far as right now... Olivares might beat out Ornelas for the second spot just because of proximity to the majors.
I like Olivares, but his ceiling is as a 4th OF. He might be a top prospect in weaker organizations, but gets lost in the Padres deep prospect list.
While 2nd isnt bad, ahead of him is 2 former All-Star (Pham/Myers), top 50 prospect (Trammell), and 2 top 100 prospects (Naylor/Grisham). Thats not counting Franchy. Also not counting the idea that CJ Abrams will probably be moved to CF (with Tatis and Arias in the infield). Also dont sleep on Hudson Head, he was turning heads at instructs. Ona got a huge bonus and started to show it last year before getting hurt. And we havent talked about Tirso (really high ceiling but a low floor too) and Rosario (great eye but NO power, needs to change before he falls further). And not counting a few others that turned heads, or Michael Gettys who I refuse to give up on after hitting 31 HR last year.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 27, 2020, 9:36 amQuote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 9:10 am
As far as MLB ready yes... as far as Prospect rankings no
Spec Rankings
Trammell
Ornelas
Olivares
Rosario
Head
Mena
Mears
Ona
As far as right now... Olivares might beat out Ornelas for the second spot just because of proximity to the majors.
I like Olivares, but his ceiling is as a 4th OF. He might be a top prospect in weaker organizations, but gets lost in the Padres deep prospect list.
While 2nd isnt bad, ahead of him is 2 former All-Star (Pham/Myers), top 50 prospect (Trammell), and 2 top 100 prospects (Naylor/Grisham). Thats not counting Franchy. Also not counting the idea that CJ Abrams will probably be moved to CF (with Tatis and Arias in the infield). Also dont sleep on Hudson Head, he was turning heads at instructs. Ona got a huge bonus and started to show it last year before getting hurt. And we havent talked about Tirso (really high ceiling but a low floor too) and Rosario (great eye but NO power, needs to change before he falls further). And not counting a few others that turned heads, or Michael Gettys who I refuse to give up on after hitting 31 HR last year.
Quote from onlypads on February 27, 2020, 7:31 pmSure, but if Olivares rakes through ST in addition to last year's work I think his value and ceiling may exceed 4th OF. At the end of the day it's a results oriented business rather than an exercise in projection.
Not to take anything away the analysis above which is really great and helpful. Just kind of making a supplemental point.
Sure, but if Olivares rakes through ST in addition to last year's work I think his value and ceiling may exceed 4th OF. At the end of the day it's a results oriented business rather than an exercise in projection.
Not to take anything away the analysis above which is really great and helpful. Just kind of making a supplemental point.
Quote from fenn68 on February 28, 2020, 6:21 amThere is a lot value in a quality 4th OF ... so should embrace that ceiling when someone can handle all 3 spots defensively and provide some offense.
There is a lot value in a quality 4th OF ... so should embrace that ceiling when someone can handle all 3 spots defensively and provide some offense.
Quote from fenn68 on February 28, 2020, 6:27 amTatis will end up in CF in a few years and be elite. Arias takes SS and Abrams 2B.
2023.
Scatter the other OF prospects in the corners.
Tatis will end up in CF in a few years and be elite. Arias takes SS and Abrams 2B.
2023.
Scatter the other OF prospects in the corners.




