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2018 Starting Lineup--25 Man Roster
Quote from fenn68 on March 23, 2018, 9:10 amQuote from dvmin98 on March 23, 2018, 8:00 amI think Baumann may be pitching himself out of a spot. Cimber deserves a place in the BP
More likely Baumann optioned and Erlin remains as the second LHRP ... long shot McGrath. Padres are not going to go with Hand as the only LHRP. If they go as rumored and start the season with only 7 RP .... might be difficult to squeeze Cimber in (and he is non-roster) so then he becomes an early call-up when needed (if he remains strong in AAA).
Quote from dvmin98 on March 23, 2018, 8:00 amI think Baumann may be pitching himself out of a spot. Cimber deserves a place in the BP
More likely Baumann optioned and Erlin remains as the second LHRP ... long shot McGrath. Padres are not going to go with Hand as the only LHRP. If they go as rumored and start the season with only 7 RP .... might be difficult to squeeze Cimber in (and he is non-roster) so then he becomes an early call-up when needed (if he remains strong in AAA).
Quote from fenn68 on March 23, 2018, 9:52 amPads are taking this down to the wire with both position players and pitchers with a lot of candidates legitimately in the mix. My shot at pitching:
- Lamet (25) ... 6 control years ... 3 options
- Perdomo (24) ... 4 control years ... 3 options (last two appearances seem to have won him a spot)
- Mitchell (26) ... 4 control years ... 0 options (seems a lock BUT would not be surprised to see him in the pen soon)
- Richard (34) ... 2 year contract
- Ross (30) ... 1 year contract .... non-roster add who did earn the spot with ST performance
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- Hand (L) (28) ... 3 year contract plus club option for 2021
- Yates (30) ... 3 control years ... 0 options
- Stammen (34) ... 2 year contract ... 0 options
- Makita (33) ... 2 year contract ... 3 options
- Erlin (27) ... 3 control years ... 1 option (pitched too well to be optioned and need a second LHRP if Baumann is optioned)
- Lyles (27) ... 1 year contract with a club option for 2019 ... 0 options ... (not sure why since pitched poorly ... think the Padres want to see more out of the pen ... could we waived sooner than later in April-May)
- Young (38) ... 1 year contract and non-roster add who can walk if not added after ST ... has pitched out of the pen and by all accounts the organization likes him and he has had more good than bad ST outings
Capps who is out of minor league options starts he season on the DL as he works back from surgery ... think all the other rostered pitchers have minor league options. A 13th pitcher should be promoted around May and history suggests that there will be a DL or two before June plus some poor performance leading to released arms (see Lyles). So, this buys some more evaluation time.
Pads are taking this down to the wire with both position players and pitchers with a lot of candidates legitimately in the mix. My shot at pitching:
- Lamet (25) ... 6 control years ... 3 options
- Perdomo (24) ... 4 control years ... 3 options (last two appearances seem to have won him a spot)
- Mitchell (26) ... 4 control years ... 0 options (seems a lock BUT would not be surprised to see him in the pen soon)
- Richard (34) ... 2 year contract
- Ross (30) ... 1 year contract .... non-roster add who did earn the spot with ST performance
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- Hand (L) (28) ... 3 year contract plus club option for 2021
- Yates (30) ... 3 control years ... 0 options
- Stammen (34) ... 2 year contract ... 0 options
- Makita (33) ... 2 year contract ... 3 options
- Erlin (27) ... 3 control years ... 1 option (pitched too well to be optioned and need a second LHRP if Baumann is optioned)
- Lyles (27) ... 1 year contract with a club option for 2019 ... 0 options ... (not sure why since pitched poorly ... think the Padres want to see more out of the pen ... could we waived sooner than later in April-May)
- Young (38) ... 1 year contract and non-roster add who can walk if not added after ST ... has pitched out of the pen and by all accounts the organization likes him and he has had more good than bad ST outings
Capps who is out of minor league options starts he season on the DL as he works back from surgery ... think all the other rostered pitchers have minor league options. A 13th pitcher should be promoted around May and history suggests that there will be a DL or two before June plus some poor performance leading to released arms (see Lyles). So, this buys some more evaluation time.
Quote from fenn68 on March 23, 2018, 11:19 amAlthough it appears that Renfroe will make the club with the thought that Pirela plays every day but split time between OF and 2B ... essentially creating a platoon of Renfroe and Asuaje when there is a LHP AND Richard / Perdomo are NOT starting (they want the defense in there for ground ball pitchers). That provides precious few AB for Renfroe and minimal exposure to RHP ... no opportunities to show improvement. So not really sure why he is kept to basically fill the bench. He was asked to show in ST his improvement in hitting RHP and his ability to take some BB .. he has not. Note that Asuaje was asked to show improvement vs. LHP and he has. Pirela needed to show his hitting will be sustained and he has. Consider:
vs. RHP: Pirela ......340 OBP / 465 SLG (2017) ..... 545/750 (ST)
Asuaje ..... 349/386 (2017) ....................... 372/579 (ST)
Renfroe ... 244/393 (2017) ...................... 289/500 (ST) ... does not appear Renfroe has stepped up to the challange
Additionally, Renfroe had the lowest of the three in BB% and in ST it is less than in 2017 (5.6% to 5%). A bit worried about his dominance over LHP (especially if he gets limited to 1 out of every 4-5 games).
vs. LHP: Pirela ...... 367/561 (2017) ....................... 450/588 (ST) ... basically Pirela is hitting everyone
Asuaje ..... 288/284 (2017) ...................... 349/386 (ST) ... looks like Asuaje met the challenge of improving vs. LHP
Renfroe .... 392/684 (2017) ...................... 261/652 (ST) ... the drop on OBP vs LHP is a concern
NOT a good ST for Renfroe.
Although it appears that Renfroe will make the club with the thought that Pirela plays every day but split time between OF and 2B ... essentially creating a platoon of Renfroe and Asuaje when there is a LHP AND Richard / Perdomo are NOT starting (they want the defense in there for ground ball pitchers). That provides precious few AB for Renfroe and minimal exposure to RHP ... no opportunities to show improvement. So not really sure why he is kept to basically fill the bench. He was asked to show in ST his improvement in hitting RHP and his ability to take some BB .. he has not. Note that Asuaje was asked to show improvement vs. LHP and he has. Pirela needed to show his hitting will be sustained and he has. Consider:
vs. RHP: Pirela ......340 OBP / 465 SLG (2017) ..... 545/750 (ST)
Asuaje ..... 349/386 (2017) ....................... 372/579 (ST)
Renfroe ... 244/393 (2017) ...................... 289/500 (ST) ... does not appear Renfroe has stepped up to the challange
Additionally, Renfroe had the lowest of the three in BB% and in ST it is less than in 2017 (5.6% to 5%). A bit worried about his dominance over LHP (especially if he gets limited to 1 out of every 4-5 games).
vs. LHP: Pirela ...... 367/561 (2017) ....................... 450/588 (ST) ... basically Pirela is hitting everyone
Asuaje ..... 288/284 (2017) ...................... 349/386 (ST) ... looks like Asuaje met the challenge of improving vs. LHP
Renfroe .... 392/684 (2017) ...................... 261/652 (ST) ... the drop on OBP vs LHP is a concern
NOT a good ST for Renfroe.
Quote from fenn68 on March 23, 2018, 1:42 pmHeard an interview with Green today ... don't expect any roster announcements until AFTER the exhibition game in EP.
The exceptions being some "procedural" moves ... he did not elaborate. Pure guess would be the need for some sort of action relating to players being put on the DL or 60 day DL (maybe the date is of issue and maybe being optioned first is a consideration) and combined with the potential key date in adding (or releasing) a non-roster veteran player. Could be they have put some (e.g. Szczur) on waivers and that process could cause action sooner than later.
Note: His comments suggested that Renfroe is on the team.
Note: He did say Urias would get time at SS in AAA and could be the call-up if there was an issue with Galvis.
Heard an interview with Green today ... don't expect any roster announcements until AFTER the exhibition game in EP.
The exceptions being some "procedural" moves ... he did not elaborate. Pure guess would be the need for some sort of action relating to players being put on the DL or 60 day DL (maybe the date is of issue and maybe being optioned first is a consideration) and combined with the potential key date in adding (or releasing) a non-roster veteran player. Could be they have put some (e.g. Szczur) on waivers and that process could cause action sooner than later.
Note: His comments suggested that Renfroe is on the team.
Note: He did say Urias would get time at SS in AAA and could be the call-up if there was an issue with Galvis.
Quote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 2:49 pmHey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
Hey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
Quote from fenn68 on March 24, 2018, 3:22 pmQuote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 2:49 pmHey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
The best reference I use is https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-depth-charts/
Has all the teams ... has minor league players ... has payroll info ... plus more.
Of the Padre position players on the 40 man who are out of minor league options ... only Szczur and Villanueva (although they can't option Headley, Galvis, or Hosmer due to service time considerations). IF they add Ellis they can't option him either. On the other hand, if they add Lopez they can option him (2 option years left).
Quote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 2:49 pmHey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
The best reference I use is https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-depth-charts/
Has all the teams ... has minor league players ... has payroll info ... plus more.
Of the Padre position players on the 40 man who are out of minor league options ... only Szczur and Villanueva (although they can't option Headley, Galvis, or Hosmer due to service time considerations). IF they add Ellis they can't option him either. On the other hand, if they add Lopez they can option him (2 option years left).
Quote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 7:45 pmQuote from fenn68 on March 24, 2018, 3:22 pmQuote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 2:49 pmHey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
The best reference I use is https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-depth-charts/
Has all the teams ... has minor league players ... has payroll info ... plus more.
Of the Padre position players on the 40 man who are out of minor league options ... only Szczur and Villanueva (although they can't option Headley, Galvis, or Hosmer due to service time considerations). IF they add Ellis they can't option him either. On the other hand, if they add Lopez they can option him (2 option years left).
Great...Thank you for the info
Quote from fenn68 on March 24, 2018, 3:22 pmQuote from 3fingersplit on March 24, 2018, 2:49 pmHey Fenn
You seem to have a pretty good grasp of options and such......do you have a list of who still have options still that are in the the ST camp?
e.g......szczur, spangy, asuaje, renfro etc similar to the list you put up about pitchers ?
thanks
3 fingersplit
The best reference I use is https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-depth-charts/
Has all the teams ... has minor league players ... has payroll info ... plus more.
Of the Padre position players on the 40 man who are out of minor league options ... only Szczur and Villanueva (although they can't option Headley, Galvis, or Hosmer due to service time considerations). IF they add Ellis they can't option him either. On the other hand, if they add Lopez they can option him (2 option years left).
Great...Thank you for the info
Quote from jcp2400 on March 25, 2018, 10:42 amhttps://twitter.com/Padres/status/977954693212094466
Green announces Top 3 Spots for Rotation: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo. With Mitchell most likely going 4th, I have to think the 5th spot goes to Ross.
This likely spells the end of the road for CY in my opinion.
"We'll start the season with Clayton Richard, Dinelson Lamet and Luis Perdomo against the Brewers." - Andy Green announces this morning #PadresST pic.twitter.com/rjHfrmLsJ7
— San Diego Padres (@Padres) March 25, 2018
Green announces Top 3 Spots for Rotation: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo. With Mitchell most likely going 4th, I have to think the 5th spot goes to Ross.
This likely spells the end of the road for CY in my opinion.
Quote from jcp2400 on March 25, 2018, 10:56 amhttps://twitter.com/AJCassavell/status/977955399423868929?s=19
I take that back, Cassavell reporting CY likely headed for long relief.
With a Rotation of: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo, Mitchell, and Ross
Bullpen of: Hand, Yates, Makita, Stammen, Young, that leaves two more spots...who does everyone have?
Chris Young is likely destined for a long relief role. If you're doing the math that leaves Tyson Ross as the probable fifth starter.
— AJ Cassavell (@AJCassavell) March 25, 2018
I take that back, Cassavell reporting CY likely headed for long relief.
With a Rotation of: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo, Mitchell, and Ross
Bullpen of: Hand, Yates, Makita, Stammen, Young, that leaves two more spots...who does everyone have?
Quote from Commie on March 25, 2018, 12:20 pmQuote from jcp2400 on March 25, 2018, 10:56 amhttps://twitter.com/AJCassavell/status/977955399423868929?s=19
I take that back, Cassavell reporting CY likely headed for long relief.
With a Rotation of: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo, Mitchell, and Ross
Bullpen of: Hand, Yates, Makita, Stammen, Young, that leaves two more spots...who does everyone have?
Erlin and Brewer.
Quote from jcp2400 on March 25, 2018, 10:56 amChris Young is likely destined for a long relief role. If you're doing the math that leaves Tyson Ross as the probable fifth starter.
— AJ Cassavell (@AJCassavell) March 25, 2018
I take that back, Cassavell reporting CY likely headed for long relief.
With a Rotation of: Richard, Lamet, Perdomo, Mitchell, and Ross
Bullpen of: Hand, Yates, Makita, Stammen, Young, that leaves two more spots...who does everyone have?
Erlin and Brewer.




