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#31 · December 9, 2020, 10:08 am
Padres full 40 now. The addition of O' Grady shrinks chance Pads make a pick even further. Interestingly, the only other 2 teams full 40-man are Tigers & Dbacks near top with #3 & #6 picks in R5 draft.
Teams have to have an open spot when they make the pick, but I can never can remember if you can DFA a guy "right then" to open a spot. If so, 8? 10? 12? teams would have made a pick by the time Pads spot rolls around... could do Wingenter DFA at that point.
Or could still do the Guerra for R5 pick trade. A trade for a non roster prospect would be more flexible/better, but think his trade value might be highest viewed "as" a R5 pick alternative. Once 4-6 teams pick a RP in R5, they'd be less inclined to trade for Guerra later even if they still have room on their 40-man.
#32 · December 9, 2020, 12:18 pm
Good question as to the timing of opening a slot on the 40. I think, and not with confidence, that the slot has to be open before the pick (not sure how long before but probably not a wait until I see who is there).
More normal is “asking” a team select the player you want then trade for that selection either with a rostered player or after a DFA clears a spot.
So PITT could select player X and then deal him to the Padres for .... hypothetically Williams. OR for someone like Nix and the Padres DFA Williams.
#33 · December 9, 2020, 5:06 pm
Quote from fenn68 on December 9, 2020, 12:18 pmGood question as to the timing of opening a slot on the 40. I think, and not with confidence, that the slot has to be open before the pick (not sure how long before but probably not a wait until I see who is there). Think this is correct
More normal is “asking” a team select the player you want then trade for that selection either with a rostered player OR $$$ or after a DFA clears a spot. ... the trade "Guerra" (or ?) as > other R5 options available idea. But $$ might hold appeal this year; basically spending more for the prospect than the R5 $100K. "Found $" to trading team if they weren't going to select anyone anyway.
So PITT could select player X and then deal him to the Padres for .... hypothetically Williams. OR for someone like Nix and the Padres DFA Williams. ? "Pitt" could just select Nix in R5... risk another team selecting the guy they want (if he is an eligible for R5 guy)
Valid point there are "other" avenues for a team to make a pick for us. Other rostered player besides Guerra or $ being the most obvious.
If $ (or a non-rostered player; could see a team preferring to get one of our R5 eligible guys AFTER R5 --save $100k, roster spot, and avoid the R5 restrictions on the player), the Pads have the DFA in hand to do it IMO... Wingenter.
Pads would exchange $ or non-protected Minors prospect for the guy they want (let's just say "Buddy Reed"), AND increase their (already likely) chance of retaining Wingenter by Outright to Minors; due to DFA him AFTER Rule 5 draft vs before.
#34 · December 9, 2020, 6:04 pm
Not a ton out there Googling "top rule 5 prospects"...
CBS Sports lists Lake Bachar as 1 of 17 names. Bleacher Report lists Buddy Reed... as 1 of 3 at end of "how R5 works" article.
#35 · December 10, 2020, 8:57 am
Well they've got some atrocious background music before the streamed R5 draft via conference call...
Updated rosters, only the Blue Jays & Us have full 40-man.
MLB.com highlighted 13 prospects including Pads' Jordan Guerrero... and Buddy Reed. Reed clearly the "layperson's choice" as a hot pick. That being said, the A's only have 35 guys on their roster, so it sure looks like they could have protected him if they wanted.
#36 · December 10, 2020, 9:27 am
ML Phase done .... Padres lose no prospects.
18 players taken (as usual mainly pitchers) ...
#37 · December 10, 2020, 9:28 am
MLB phase over. No Padres prospects chosen.
18 selections total. 15 P, 2 OF (not Buddy Reed), 1 SS.
Baltimore & Oakland each made 2 Rule 5 picks.
NYY lose 3 prospects. LAD (P's Brett Degauss & Jordan Sheffield), Minnesota, Cleveland, & Baltimore all lose 2 prospects.
#38 · December 10, 2020, 9:28 am
Oddly more interested in the minor league phase ... not expecting quality but Padres have a lot of open position player slots for AAA to A+ and this may be a vehicle to put some options in play vs. signing minor league FA.
#39 · December 10, 2020, 9:35 am
I thought we would lose 1 at least.
#40 · December 10, 2020, 10:08 am
Looks like the Padres lost 3 in the minor league phase (players not on on the AAA roster):
Carrasco ... RHP who was in short season I think
Feliz ... RHP who also was a short season / low A type
Pozo ... C who I think they just signed as a minor league FA for the lower levels
Basically no big thing.
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Coming in are:
Yorman Rodriguez ... C/1B ... probably in low A
Ben Ruta .... LHH OF ... probably ticketed for AA (maybe AAA) decent in AA with some speed
Basically no big thing