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Hey AG, did you just see that play in the OF, that is what real outfielders look like. You are the only person in the world that thinks you can win a game in Coors Field with 3 left fielders playing at the same time. You are a buffoon, and you deserve to lose your job for one of two things. Either you are not smart enough to put together a real line up, or you are not man enough to tell AJP to take his line up suggestions and shove them where the sun dont shine.

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I have been saying this all season......Andy Green is NOT the guy to lead this team

Quote from BoosterSD on September 13, 2019, 6:24 pm

Hey AG, did you just see that play in the OF, that is what real outfielders look like. You are the only person in the world that thinks you can win a game in Coors Field with 3 left fielders playing at the same time. You are a buffoon, and you deserve to lose your job for one of two things. Either you are not smart enough to put together a real line up, or you are not man enough to tell AJP to take his line up suggestions and shove them where the sun dont shine.

Doubt many (if any) of the current managers in MLB survive with total independence ... that is just something for past and the world of front offices / analytics are today's reality.

One reason Green got hired is that he either agreed with the collaboration approach (or at least said so to get the job). If he told them to shove it ... he would be the one shoved out and probably would have trouble finding a INF instructor slot in A ball. From the Padres perspective ... they would just find a more compliant option for the manger's slot who would still work in concert with the front office. No gain there. Basically Roberts is doing the same in LA .. but benefits from a better 25 man roster. Also a factor in the diminishing number of older / veteran managers and the hiring of managers with little or no experience managing and under 50 (or 40). Managers are more sheep dogs herding for the rancher front office these days.

With this team ... could go either way with Green ... but when the team actually is good enough to legitimately compete beyond wishful thinking ... worry about manager upgrade.

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I guess the other philosophical issue is should a team such as the Padres who have a losing record, non-contenders,  and only 2 weeks to play .... in a game with an equally out of contention team .... really put the "best line up" out there to win each game or do some further player evaluation by giving playing time to others? (might be different if playing a contender though, if one cares).

A run prevention OF of Myers - Margot - Jankowski may have been the better choice for Coors Field (I think so) ... but the Padres have seen a lot over the years in the ML of Margot and Jankowski. Strategically better off seeing more of Martini in different situations and same goes for Naylor? They are sorting through who really is around for 2020 ... they will have to make some calls in the next 3 months of 40 man - trades - 40 man (Rule 5). Actually, Myers has been their best hitter in the past month or so, so seeing him some more in CF does not hurt.

 

Hey AG, or should I call you Mr Dumas. Those two runs are on you, since you are the idiot that keeps trotting Myers into CF. You preach about success of the young players, and wanting Lauer to have success in Coors, so good on you putting the worse possible defensive OF in the largest OF in ML baseball. You are a manager of the year candidate.

Surely he is not the one making these decisions.

No way he is the one who keeps putting Naylor in RF?

 

Quote from David Nevin on September 14, 2019, 6:15 pm

Surely he is not the one making these decisions.

No way he is the one who keeps putting Naylor in RF?

 

If I was Fowler, I would fire whoever is. Whoever is making this decision, is wasting the good faith that Padre baseball was finally starting to rebuild. Once again, we look like idiots grasping at f*****g straws and playing for draft picks.

Are we competing for a playoff spot? No? Then let's see how good Naylor's bat really is. Let's find out exactly what he can and cannot do right now when it doesn't matter. Better now than next year when we are chasing a wild card.

Quote from JasonE135 on September 14, 2019, 8:10 pm

Are we competing for a playoff spot? No? Then let's see how good Naylor's bat really is. Let's find out exactly what he can and cannot do right now when it doesn't matter. Better now than next year when we are chasing a wild card.

He would have to hit .375 and drive in 175 runs for his bat to offest how his glove and defense are in the OF.

Dont you think Lauer and Luchessi warrant a better effort than they are being given.

Is his bat good enough to take over for Hosmer when his contract runs out? Can he be Kyle Schwarber? Kyle keeps getting playing time even though he has the same body and athletic ability as Naylor. This is his first year and he has never gotten consistent playing time. Who really knows what he can do? And is 1 more loss going to break our pitchers? I don't think he deserved to win giving up 10 runs. Besides, DeGrom won the CY Young with a 10-9 record. Record doesn't matter. Frustration doesn't come into it unless you are losing 1-0, 2-1 or at worst 3-2.

I hate baseball in Coors field.

Naylor is a bad OF ... but MLB is littered with bad corner OF if they can hit (and that does not have to be hitting all that much). Hopefully Naylor shows well in his ML ABs (remember he is still very young) to generated some trade interest (at least as a piece of a bigger trade) to a team that needs a 1B/DH since hit hit skill has been his selling point since he was drafted. Now, while the season is lost, is the best time to run his bat out there and see where that takes them.

Looks as though they are taking the same tact with Martini ... on the surface the future for a 29 year old, LF only, limited power / speed, claimed via waivers is not much more than a 5th OF / PH at best. Probably don’t want to get over excited by an introductory short sample size ... drop someone else from the 40 man ... and have him flame out in 2020. So they play him every day in LF.

Sort of forcing Martini and Naylor into the line-up to make a better call if they keep either for 2020 or go out and get a LHH add. Getting the feeling that Jankowski maybe be on the way out BUT could interpret the lack of playing to the fact they know what they have in Jankowski and don’t need to see him down the stretch to justify his 2020 spot.