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Padres have announced Davies will start Friday ... skipping the Lucchesi / Quantrill duo. No word on Saturday yet when it would be Paddack's turn ... but seems likely he works in normal rotation.

Open question as to what will happen to either Lucchesi or Quantrill during the cut to 28 plus opens the discussion of Patino getting into the starting rotation after the other starters cycle through.

Love it!   Lines Davies up for 3rd start vs LAD next series.  Now HAVE to get Paddack 1 of the 4 LAD games.  If Paddack does start game 2 vs Dbacks, he's lined up for game 4 vs LAD.  These 2 SP would be on normal rest for both of these starts.  Lamet & Richards (games 1 & 2 vs LAD) would both have had an extra rest day.  With the off day today & addition of Patino, this probably makes the most sense.  I would give game 3 to Lucchesi on a very short last chance leash.

The other option is some combo of Joey/Cal/Patino for both games 2 & 3 vs Dbacks; basically giving a start to the 6th SP.  This would line up #1-#4 in order for 4 games vs LAD, but would give TWO extra days of rest to each of them.  I proposed this idea originally, & even speculated on Patino's arrival, but I think the top option makes more sense.

Based on historical data versus each of these pitchers (Weaver and Davies), looks like a high scoring game might be in the cards.  I think we'll come up on top of that match-up.  Thought I saw Paddack and Lamet scheduled for the next two games so it might be we are going all in to sweep this series.

Seems like the Padres are going to try to maximize the number of starts for, at least, Paddack - Lamet - Richards and then Davis by keep sending them out on regular rest (or as close as they can manage). So, the 5th spot may get by-passed if off-days / rain outs interrupt the schedule through the rest of the season.

Of course their forward performances and the potential performances of Patino / Quantrill may alter that.

Quote from fenn68 on August 7, 2020, 8:05 am

Seems like the Padres are going to try to maximize the number of starts for, at least, Paddack - Lamet - Richards and then Davis by keep sending them out on regular rest (or as close as they can manage). So, the 5th spot may get by-passed if off-days / rain outs interrupt the schedule through the rest of the season.

Of course their forward performances and the potential performances of Patino / Quantrill may alter that.

As they should.  I feel very strongly that they really need to get the top 3 (plus Davies) starting vs LAD to have the best chance possible in those games...   comes down to a decision of do you want Cal/Patino to go at home vs Dbacks, or on road vs LAD...

That seems like a pretty easy decision.  But there is a pragmatic (cynical) side to it, where you could argue "well, even with Lamet vs LAD, they'll still be favored to win, so "better" to have him go against a weaker team to increase the chance of winning a more "winnable" game (1 of only 60) on paper??

Put me in the 1st camp:  We played LAD tough; let's put our best foot forward vs them while we can control it (upcoming series).  IMO putting Cal or Patino in that spot is increasing chance of failure/hurting confidence.

We play the D Backs this weekend at home and then again next weekend in Az. and then.......no more for  the rest of the season.

Crazy.

 

Our top 4 pitchers have shown flashes of being very good, especially Paddack and Lamet, but there have been pockets of inconsistency with all of them.  I think Davies has actually pitched better than his record and he has that calmness about him where you know he can work his way out of a jam more often than not.  With Richards, it's probably the inactivity over the last two years that he has to work through, but on occasion you can see a pitch mix that will work as a solid #3.  So maximizing these 4 guys, assuming no further arm issues with the 3 that had TJ surgery, is a great idea.  In my opinion, Quantrill will get the opportunity to show he deserves the opportunity to start but Patino has the better pitching arsenal.  As the back-to-back days pile up, it may be that Patino will be inserted against a lesser opponent, maybe an AL West team, to give an extra days' rest to our top 3.  I don't think we'll see Gore this year, but may see Morejon, Baez and others who have shown well on the relief pitcher shuttle between the alternate training site and the major league roster.  Not surprised if Perdomo, Hill and others who have options, including SPs, get administratively sent down for a day or between starts to maximize our pitching resources; I believe they can even still be at the park just not in uniform or in the dugout.  Got to learn to use all the cards we are dealt and be creative because it's going to be a real dogfight in the NL West after the powerhouse Dodgers.

Quote from MrPadre19 on August 7, 2020, 12:34 pm

We play the D Backs this weekend at home and then again next weekend in Az. and then.......no more for  the rest of the season.

Crazy.

 

Pre-season AZ was considered the Padres’ strongest competition for 2nd place behind the LAD. Since I still think the LAD will runaway with the NL West ... should the Padres focus on destroying any chance AZ gets their act together and snaring 2nd place more to secure a better playoff seeding?

Since pitchers are generally creatures of routine .... keeping the top pitchers on a regular schedule (4 days rest) maybe be more beneficial than running them out on short rest or giving them a longer rest.

Good chance next Tuesday we see Patino - Strahm - Quantrill - Wall - Perdomo - Pomeranz - Pagan - Yates (to seal the win).😁

Quote from Randy Manese on August 7, 2020, 12:53 pm

Our top 4 pitchers have shown flashes of being very good, especially Paddack and Lamet, but there have been pockets of inconsistency with all of them.  I think Davies has actually pitched better than his record and he has that calmness about him where you know he can work his way out of a jam more often than not.  With Richards, it's probably the inactivity over the last two years that he has to work through, but on occasion you can see a pitch mix that will work as a solid #3.  So maximizing these 4 guys, assuming no further arm issues with the 3 that had TJ surgery, is a great idea.  In my opinion, Quantrill will get the opportunity to show he deserves the opportunity to start but Patino has the better pitching arsenal.  As the back-to-back days pile up, it may be that Patino will be inserted against a lesser opponent, maybe an AL West team, to give an extra days' rest to our top 3.  I don't think we'll see Gore this year, but may see Morejon, Baez and others who have shown well on the relief pitcher shuttle between the alternate training site and the major league roster.  Not surprised if Perdomo, Hill and others who have options, including SPs, get administratively sent down for a day or between starts to maximize our pitching resources; I believe they can even still be at the park just not in uniform or in the dugout.  Got to learn to use all the cards we are dealt and be creative because it's going to be a real dogfight in the NL West after the powerhouse Dodgers.

Remember, when you option a guy down, he has to stay down for 10 days before "voluntarily" being recalled.  I don't think that's changed this season, so now that 10 days = 1/6 of the entire season!  This can work to skip 1 SP start like Pads did last year with Paddack over All Star Break.  But doesn't work as well for RP's. Under "old" rules, the typical reason to do so was an extra inning game where a guy threw 4 IP / 70 pitches, so wouldn't be available for a few days.  That or SP getting knocked out really early.

Of course the major exceptions are injury & this year Covid; can recall any time for those reasons.

Quote from fenn68 on August 7, 2020, 12:54 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on August 7, 2020, 12:34 pm

We play the D Backs this weekend at home and then again next weekend in Az. and then.......no more for  the rest of the season.

Crazy.

 

Pre-season AZ was considered the Padres’ strongest competition for 2nd place behind the LAD. Since I still think the LAD will runaway with the NL West ... should the Padres focus on destroying any chance AZ gets their act together and snaring 2nd place more to secure a better playoff seeding?

Since pitchers are generally creatures of routine .... keeping the top pitchers on a regular schedule (4 days rest) maybe be more beneficial than running them out on short rest or giving them a longer rest.

Good chance next Tuesday we see Patino - Strahm - Quantrill - Wall - Perdomo - Pomeranz - Pagan - Yates (to seal the win).😁

Probably does make sense when you put it like that, but I don't love the idea of Q or Patino making their 1st start this year (or ever) AT LAD... increasing the likelihood either guy gets pummelled leading to more threads & hand wringing on this board about our #5 SP 🙂

I wasn't aware that a player has to be sent down for 10 days this year.  I thought I saw a lot of movement from other teams that bounced players up and down but I might have been wrong.  If so, then my above comments will not work.  With so short a season, it doesn't make sense although the IL does.  Sorry!