Quote from fenn68 on April 6, 2024, 4:53 pm

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Quote from WindsorUK on April 6, 2024, 11:56 am

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Quote from WindsorUK on April 6, 2024, 3:42 am

Okay, on my soapbox again...

Tatis's interference call? Compare FTJ's slide( on the ground before the bag, popping up on the bag, stumbling because Ahmed is there) to Hoskins the other day. FTJ appears to be making a totally legitimate baseball play( like they teach it) and they call him for interference? Whereas Hoskins slide initially did not?

I don't know what kind of training these umps get, but there is a horrendous lack of consistency,  or even lack of understanding?, that drives fans crazy( Angel Hernandez of course excluded as the guy is maybe the worst umpire in the history of officiating, in ANY sport!)

Guys have any takes on it? Most seem to believe Hoskins slide was okay( I don't) - how about FTJ's( I do)?

Anything a runner does to alter, impede, or prevent a fielder from making a play, a throw, or fielding the ball is interference. The fact that Tatis was on doing a pop up slide has nothing to do with whether the call is going to be made. His contact with the fielder sealed the fate of Crone at 1st.

As far as the training that MLB umps go through, its intense. Before they even get a chance to go to the MiLs, they go through a 5 week training (judgement) camp in FL, that you pay for out of your own pocket. This camp assess your ability on judgement calls, rules interpretation, size, weight, and look on the field. If you make it through that camp and get selected, then you get to toil away in the MiLs for at least 4 years. During which you are intensely observed at every game, you are paid absolute shit in terms of pay and daily (even had some call up cover games in the MLs) and was let go because they didnt like the way he was running.

In the ML, they have meetings hours before the game to discuss issues such as whether they are recent brawls/heated exchanges between the teams in previous series, rules interpretations, and other items that need to be covered.

With the exception of Angel Hernandez, these are 75 of the top umpires in the world. They work hard to get there, and they do it out of a passion for the game.

The inconsistency is not with the umpires, it is with the lack of knowledge of the rules by the coaches and the players, the lack of knowledge of the announcers trying to explain the rules to the fans, and those lead to the misinformation of the fans following the game.

Doesn't the runner have a right to the bag? The only reason FTJ ran into Estrada is because he was on the base.

I fully understand the impediment thing( see Hoskins) but FTJ was 100% going to the bag, which he has the right to, or so I thought.

Good discussion though. Hopefully players going forward understand this better than I do.

If you watch the video of the slide, he does two things wrong. One he doesnt go directly into the bag, he is more off to the 3rd base side. And two, he goes through the bag, the contact takes place on the 3rd base side of the bag and the back side of the bag, and thats what gets him into trouble.

Could it be as simple as he was past 2nd base when he was making contact with the fielder (had come off 2nd) ... the slide itself was fine but passing 2nd essentially makes him a runner heading for 3rd base and at that point contact with the fielder constitutes interference? If a runner can be tagged out if sliding past the base ... the runner can cause interference if past the base. He did not have to come off much or for long ... just lost contact and making contact seems to meet that criteria.

Quote from fenn68 on April 6, 2024, 6:24 pm

Acee reports the Padres are "targeting" the end of the month for Machado's return to 3B ... no certainty he will be there every day even then .... so maybe that alters any move plans.

Given the limited funds for an add ... and given what seems to be a major rash of long term injuries to key ML pitchers ... and given 2023 injuries to Musgrove / Darvish, the "unknown" of King lasting a full season, the weakness in whomever they have sitting as #5 now, plus the unknown of the call-up readiness of any of the prospects ... might Preller be better off holding on any offensive oriented  move lest then really need to address pitching as a more acute need mid-season?

Oddly even with the early offensive struggles the Padres in wRC+ are 6th in the NL (playoff quality) and even looking at Manny's struggles ... there are some big names doing worse ... by a lot ... and some are 3B. Bit early to over react. On the other hand the Padres are in the lower tier pitching ... also too early of panic.

with all those TBD ... is Preller just better off on hold to really assess what he has (and might have via the prospects)? Will Pauley, Marsee et all add enough offensive depth? Can they project Snelling, Mazur, Bergert to fill a SP role effectively if called? If money deems only one significant outside add ... might be best to wait until the last moment to make the call.

Quote from MrPadre19 on April 6, 2024, 8:37 pm

Brito,Vasquez,Snelling,Mazur,Bergert….I think we are fine if we need to add a SP as long as we don’t trade any,which I don’t think we will.

I am a little worried about the offense though….man I wish we could get Burger from Miami.

All the talk about Arraez but Burger is cheap,controlled,and adds much needed power and could DH or fill at 3B/1B.

There’s just little need for Mia to trade him.

 

 

Quote from BoosterSD on April 7, 2024, 3:30 pm

Another sloppy game, with pathetic offense that led to another stupid loss.

Dont they realize these are the loses that led them to missing the playoffs last season!?!?

Quote from Jeremy Hill on April 7, 2024, 3:46 pm

Losing 3-2 without giving up an earned run is next level Padresing. I never thought I would see multiple errors from Kim cost us a game.

I also think I've seen enough of Pauley for the time being. I still think he has a bright future, but he looks overmatched. 2-14 with 7 Ks isn't good enough. Send him back to AA and let him get everyday reps.

Quote from fenn68 on April 7, 2024, 4:19 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on April 7, 2024, 3:46 pm

Losing 3-2 without giving up an earned run is next level Padresing. I never thought I would see multiple errors from Kim cost us a game.

I also think I've seen enough of Pauley for the time being. I still think he has a bright future, but he looks overmatched. 2-14 with 7 Ks isn't good enough. Send him back to AA and let him get everyday reps.

Agree on both counts. AA season is in swing so get Pauley down there for regular AB … and maybe some work in the OF. (Not sure who they bring up … but some veteran who is more suited for a bench role … let Wade/Rosario deal with 3B for now).

Kim looked way out of it defensively today … and has struggled offensively in the #5 slot. Not a great start to his FA walk year.

I also wonder if Brito needs some re-work in the minors … appeared in 4 games I think and in 3 was very ineffective. Not sure who is hot in AAA for the pen … maybe Morejon or Jacob.

Quote from Alex Tamayo on April 7, 2024, 4:24 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on April 7, 2024, 3:30 pm

Another sloppy game, with pathetic offense that led to another stupid loss.

Dont they realize these are the loses that led them to missing the playoffs last season!?!?

I guess everybody but them got the memo, going back home 6-6 looked very appealing to me, now we have a series vs a very nice ball club, saw part of the game today Dodgers against the Cubs, really liked what I saw, it is gonna be a tough series

Quote from WindsorUK on April 8, 2024, 3:36 am

Quote from fenn68 on April 7, 2024, 4:19 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on April 7, 2024, 3:46 pm

Losing 3-2 without giving up an earned run is next level Padresing. I never thought I would see multiple errors from Kim cost us a game.

I also think I've seen enough of Pauley for the time being. I still think he has a bright future, but he looks overmatched. 2-14 with 7 Ks isn't good enough. Send him back to AA and let him get everyday reps.

Agree on both counts. AA season is in swing so get Pauley down there for regular AB … and maybe some work in the OF. (Not sure who they bring up … but some veteran who is more suited for a bench role … let Wade/Rosario deal with 3B for now).

Kim looked way out of it defensively today … and has struggled offensively in the #5 slot. Not a great start to his FA walk year.

I also wonder if Brito needs some re-work in the minors … appeared in 4 games I think and in 3 was very ineffective. Not sure who is hot in AAA for the pen … maybe Morejon or Jacob.

Pauley should have been starting 3rd baseman from day 1. Not my words but managements: if he makes the OD roster, he's going to play. Otherwise, what's the point, right???

Kim is not a 5 hole hitter. We can see that. At what point does management?

As for Brito, he's a starter.

Quote from 84padres on April 8, 2024, 4:45 am

Quote from fenn68 on April 7, 2024, 4:19 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on April 7, 2024, 3:46 pm

Losing 3-2 without giving up an earned run is next level Padresing. I never thought I would see multiple errors from Kim cost us a game.

I also think I've seen enough of Pauley for the time being. I still think he has a bright future, but he looks overmatched. 2-14 with 7 Ks isn't good enough. Send him back to AA and let him get everyday reps.

Agree on both counts. AA season is in swing so get Pauley down there for regular AB … and maybe some work in the OF. (Not sure who they bring up … but some veteran who is more suited for a bench role … let Wade/Rosario deal with 3B for now).

Kim looked way out of it defensively today … and has struggled offensively in the #5 slot. Not a great start to his FA walk year.

I also wonder if Brito needs some re-work in the minors … appeared in 4 games I think and in 3 was very ineffective. Not sure who is hot in AAA for the pen … maybe Morejon or Jacob.

It's early but I've seen enough of Brito for now , there's no way you can keep pitching  him in high leverage situations .