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Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 2:15 pmPadres are in the situation that they have to work to maximize the value they can get out of Hosmer ... he is here and not going away (for now). May not be a $21MM guy but still if used vs. RHP (75% of the time) in the middle of the order and then dropped to 6th vs. LHP (and "rested" for a RHH that is particularly difficult for him) ... that should do it.
Given the current players .... flipping him in the line-up between #4 and #6 with Myers probably would help the overall line-up production.
Of course, getting an impact middle of the order bat for CF or RF would make this simpler ... just not seeing that happening. LAA rejected my Hedges for Trout proposal 🙂
Padres are in the situation that they have to work to maximize the value they can get out of Hosmer ... he is here and not going away (for now). May not be a $21MM guy but still if used vs. RHP (75% of the time) in the middle of the order and then dropped to 6th vs. LHP (and "rested" for a RHH that is particularly difficult for him) ... that should do it.
Given the current players .... flipping him in the line-up between #4 and #6 with Myers probably would help the overall line-up production.
Of course, getting an impact middle of the order bat for CF or RF would make this simpler ... just not seeing that happening. LAA rejected my Hedges for Trout proposal 🙂
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:21 pmBut will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
But will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 2:23 pmQuote from onlypads on December 10, 2019, 2:12 pmI guess Contreras has been linked to Padres, but the ask is "absurd."
Yeh, Texas was interested in him and they need a #1 catcher but have walked away given the CUBS demands. Guessing the CUBS are just trolling the waters to see if someone bites with a mega overpay. They don't NEED to trade him.
Listened to Hoyer today and he did not seem to be indicating any activity near term with any team (but that is GM speak). What he did say is that Preller calls everyone ... discusses every possible option ... and that is why the rumors alway have the Padres "interested in", "asking about", "pursuing", etc. any player writers want to link them to.
Quote from onlypads on December 10, 2019, 2:12 pmI guess Contreras has been linked to Padres, but the ask is "absurd."
Yeh, Texas was interested in him and they need a #1 catcher but have walked away given the CUBS demands. Guessing the CUBS are just trolling the waters to see if someone bites with a mega overpay. They don't NEED to trade him.
Listened to Hoyer today and he did not seem to be indicating any activity near term with any team (but that is GM speak). What he did say is that Preller calls everyone ... discusses every possible option ... and that is why the rumors alway have the Padres "interested in", "asking about", "pursuing", etc. any player writers want to link them to.
Quote from onlypads on December 10, 2019, 2:30 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:21 pmBut will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
I like the idea of restricting Myers to RF and 1B. Build trade value while simultaneously boosting production with LSP and allowing a greater level of stability (at least that is the idea).
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:21 pmBut will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
I like the idea of restricting Myers to RF and 1B. Build trade value while simultaneously boosting production with LSP and allowing a greater level of stability (at least that is the idea).
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 2:31 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:21 pmBut will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
I am guessing they will sit him against "selected" LHP ... given the analytics the Padres probably have a good profile on the pitcher (or style of pitcher) that just kills him ... maybe once a week for a strategic "rest" and think he can handle that for the good of the team keeping him fresher into the end of the season and getting the bench some ABs to keep them sharp for PH.
However, when a LHP is on the mound ... expect Myers in RF consider the alternatives are LHH (Cordero / Naylor). If France is around he would be a good 1B option. Then considering Hosmer's struggle v LHP ... actually Naylor may be more productive (he does OK v LHP) and then maybe pop Mejia to 1B or, dare I say ... Kinsler.
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:21 pmBut will Tingler sit him against LH starters?
He's used to playing everyday and at $21 mil?
But maybe Myers should get some of those starts?
See if he can add some trade value.
I am guessing they will sit him against "selected" LHP ... given the analytics the Padres probably have a good profile on the pitcher (or style of pitcher) that just kills him ... maybe once a week for a strategic "rest" and think he can handle that for the good of the team keeping him fresher into the end of the season and getting the bench some ABs to keep them sharp for PH.
However, when a LHP is on the mound ... expect Myers in RF consider the alternatives are LHH (Cordero / Naylor). If France is around he would be a good 1B option. Then considering Hosmer's struggle v LHP ... actually Naylor may be more productive (he does OK v LHP) and then maybe pop Mejia to 1B or, dare I say ... Kinsler.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 10, 2019, 2:39 pmQuote from JasonE135 on December 10, 2019, 12:37 pmWe started last year with a rotation of Paddack, Lucchesie, Lauer, Strahm and Margevicious. We have replaced the last 3 with Richards, Lamet and Davies. That is a TITANIC upgrade! Richards has a lifetime ERA just over 3.00. He has the highest spin breaking balls in the sport. Davies has an ERA a half run better than Lauer. And Margevicius vs. Lamet? C ‘mon!
We were competing for a playoff spot in the first half last year. Our rotation is MUCH better. Our bullpen is better. Our offense is better. Not a ton better, but definitely more experienced and competitive. We have a noticeably better team now. All they have to do is keep up their first half performance without fading.
I dont know if it was here or in the SDUT Forum but someone crunch the numbers in OBP with Mejia (starting) and the additions of Profar 2B/Pham/Grisham + projected bench... and I believe we were like 27th or something like that in 2019... and improved to .346 with the additions/substractions/playing time redux (Hedges)... which ranked us #1 (ahead of the LAD .345 in 19)... so that is HUGE offensive upgrade
Quote from JasonE135 on December 10, 2019, 12:37 pmWe started last year with a rotation of Paddack, Lucchesie, Lauer, Strahm and Margevicious. We have replaced the last 3 with Richards, Lamet and Davies. That is a TITANIC upgrade! Richards has a lifetime ERA just over 3.00. He has the highest spin breaking balls in the sport. Davies has an ERA a half run better than Lauer. And Margevicius vs. Lamet? C ‘mon!
We were competing for a playoff spot in the first half last year. Our rotation is MUCH better. Our bullpen is better. Our offense is better. Not a ton better, but definitely more experienced and competitive. We have a noticeably better team now. All they have to do is keep up their first half performance without fading.
I dont know if it was here or in the SDUT Forum but someone crunch the numbers in OBP with Mejia (starting) and the additions of Profar 2B/Pham/Grisham + projected bench... and I believe we were like 27th or something like that in 2019... and improved to .346 with the additions/substractions/playing time redux (Hedges)... which ranked us #1 (ahead of the LAD .345 in 19)... so that is HUGE offensive upgrade
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 3:00 pmThe Giants have acquired infielder Zack Cozart and shortstop prospect Will Wilsonfrom the Angels for cash considerations, Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times reports.
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Angels just give up their #1 pick in the 2019 draft (#15 overall) to rid themselves of the final $13MM of Cozart's disastrous contract. On the flip side SF just "bought" that pick for $13MM.
Note: Wilson is a college guy that has yet to play full season ... so a few years out.
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More salary room for LAA to sign either Cole or Rendon and maybe an indication that they will consider moving prospects (back to Marsh here) for upgrading the ML team now.
The Giants have acquired infielder Zack Cozart and shortstop prospect Will Wilsonfrom the Angels for cash considerations, Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times reports.
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Angels just give up their #1 pick in the 2019 draft (#15 overall) to rid themselves of the final $13MM of Cozart's disastrous contract. On the flip side SF just "bought" that pick for $13MM.
Note: Wilson is a college guy that has yet to play full season ... so a few years out.
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More salary room for LAA to sign either Cole or Rendon and maybe an indication that they will consider moving prospects (back to Marsh here) for upgrading the ML team now.
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 3:05 pmI guess it is good to be SF with money ... they just also signed Kevin Gausman for 1 year at $9MM plus incentives. Last season a sharp 5.72 ERA and a -0.1 WAR.
Don't under estimate the value of "marginal arms" these days.
I guess it is good to be SF with money ... they just also signed Kevin Gausman for 1 year at $9MM plus incentives. Last season a sharp 5.72 ERA and a -0.1 WAR.
Don't under estimate the value of "marginal arms" these days.
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 3:20 pmBoth deals of interest to Padres.
The Cozart deal is just what we are trying to do with Myers and the Gausman deal is yet another that makes the Davies trade look like highway robbery from the Brewers.
If Davies pitches even close to what he’s done the last couple seasons his $5 mil will be the bargain of the offseason.
Could we attach Weathers to Myers...pay half his contract and unload him to save $10 mil a year for 3 years?
Both deals of interest to Padres.
The Cozart deal is just what we are trying to do with Myers and the Gausman deal is yet another that makes the Davies trade look like highway robbery from the Brewers.
If Davies pitches even close to what he’s done the last couple seasons his $5 mil will be the bargain of the offseason.
Could we attach Weathers to Myers...pay half his contract and unload him to save $10 mil a year for 3 years?




