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LHH OPTIONS FOR 2020

Question on Corey Dickerson ... on paper he seems like a very good FA that clearly fits the Padres.

However, on a couple of Top FA list (anywhere from top 20 to top 50) his name is missing (or I am just missing it). Is there something that I am missing ... I do know he had a broken foot in Sept but would think that would be fine by ST.

I guess that could be a hidden benefit if that lowers his signing price point.

Also, Akiyama is not being listed (the other Japanese slugger is on some). Again, maybe suggesting he too may have a lower signing price point.

Getting both on the cheap might be really valuable ... or maybe they just are not that good and signing would be really a waste. Need more scouting reports on them.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=naylor001jos

 

Find this rather interesting.. Naylor hitting .341/.400/.415  only 1 extra base hit a HR -- in 45 PA's.. Since Tingler was the Manager there kind of wondering if he changed Naylor's focus at the plate to be more OBP conscious or go the other way etc.. 3 BB's  7% walk rate.. 5 SO  11% K rate,,, Wonder Wonder Wonder

Quote from David Nevin on November 4, 2019, 1:37 pm

He's a rare case where I would be willing to trade Patino and/or Campusano and/or even Edwards.

Weathers/Lauer/Campusano/Naylor/Baez.

Patino/Lauer/Naylor/Miller/Bolanos or similar arm.

I'd do either all day long.

 

So would the Orioles.

Trey is worth a couple of the guys you list plus a lottery ticket from short season like Mears. No way they put Patino, Naylor, Weathers or Campusano in a deal for him. Lauer, Miller and Mears for Mancini.

Naylor ≥ Mancini by 2021 on both sides of ball.

Quote from fenn68 on November 4, 2019, 4:32 pm

Question on Corey Dickerson ... on paper he seems like a very good FA that clearly fits the Padres.

However, on a couple of Top FA list (anywhere from top 20 to top 50) his name is missing (or I am just missing it). Is there something that I am missing ... I do know he had a broken foot in Sept but would think that would be fine by ST.

I guess that could be a hidden benefit if that lowers his signing price point.

Also, Akiyama is not being listed (the other Japanese slugger is on some). Again, maybe suggesting he too may have a lower signing price point.

Getting both on the cheap might be really valuable ... or maybe they just are not that good and signing would be really a waste. Need more scouting reports on them.

Dickerson was listed about #25 on both CBS and MLBTR. MLBTR has SD signing him for 2/15, an AAV of $7.5M. Akiyama is listed #45 on MLBTR and getting 2/6 from AZ.

So if SD got both for $10-11M per year, I think that would help a lot.

Quote from BoosterSD on November 4, 2019, 6:41 pm
Quote from fenn68 on November 4, 2019, 4:32 pm

Question on Corey Dickerson ... on paper he seems like a very good FA that clearly fits the Padres.

However, on a couple of Top FA list (anywhere from top 20 to top 50) his name is missing (or I am just missing it). Is there something that I am missing ... I do know he had a broken foot in Sept but would think that would be fine by ST.

I guess that could be a hidden benefit if that lowers his signing price point.

Also, Akiyama is not being listed (the other Japanese slugger is on some). Again, maybe suggesting he too may have a lower signing price point.

Getting both on the cheap might be really valuable ... or maybe they just are not that good and signing would be really a waste. Need more scouting reports on them.

Dickerson was listed about #25 on both CBS and MLBTR. MLBTR has SD signing him for 2/15, an AAV of $7.5M. Akiyama is listed #45 on MLBTR and getting 2/6 from AZ.

So if SD got both for $10-11M per year, I think that would help a lot.

Just saw that .... agree unless the Padres see some real flaw in Akiyama. But on the surface given the need for LHH OF and one being a CF a small price to pay for the upgrade potential.

The ripple effect of allowing Cordero and Trammell more minor league time also has value plus those signings could free up (make easier) trading any of the incumbents OF options for further upgrades or young quality prospects to build the next wave while saving payroll.

 

Quote from fenn68 on November 5, 2019, 1:53 am
Quote from BoosterSD on November 4, 2019, 6:41 pm
Quote from fenn68 on November 4, 2019, 4:32 pm

Question on Corey Dickerson ... on paper he seems like a very good FA that clearly fits the Padres.

However, on a couple of Top FA list (anywhere from top 20 to top 50) his name is missing (or I am just missing it). Is there something that I am missing ... I do know he had a broken foot in Sept but would think that would be fine by ST.

I guess that could be a hidden benefit if that lowers his signing price point.

Also, Akiyama is not being listed (the other Japanese slugger is on some). Again, maybe suggesting he too may have a lower signing price point.

Getting both on the cheap might be really valuable ... or maybe they just are not that good and signing would be really a waste. Need more scouting reports on them.

Dickerson was listed about #25 on both CBS and MLBTR. MLBTR has SD signing him for 2/15, an AAV of $7.5M. Akiyama is listed #45 on MLBTR and getting 2/6 from AZ.

So if SD got both for $10-11M per year, I think that would help a lot.

Just saw that .... agree unless the Padres see some real flaw in Akiyama. But on the surface given the need for LHH OF and one being a CF a small price to pay for the upgrade potential.

The ripple effect of allowing Cordero and Trammell more minor league time also has value plus those signings could free up (make easier) trading any of the incumbents OF options for further upgrades or young quality prospects to build the next wave while saving payroll.

 

I like it. I agree with everything you just said. Now let's get it done.

As far as Dickerson is concerned, I don't know why he is not valued more highly. You would think a guy who averages .286/.328 with 25 HR per year would get more love. Maybe it is lack of big time power? He seemed to have been highly sought-after last year.

Quote from Commie on November 4, 2019, 5:24 pm
Quote from David Nevin on November 4, 2019, 1:37 pm

He's a rare case where I would be willing to trade Patino and/or Campusano and/or even Edwards.

Weathers/Lauer/Campusano/Naylor/Baez.

Patino/Lauer/Naylor/Miller/Bolanos or similar arm.

I'd do either all day long.

 

So would the Orioles.

Trey is worth a couple of the guys you list plus a lottery ticket from short season like Mears. No way they put Patino, Naylor, Weathers or Campusano in a deal for him. Lauer, Miller and Mears for Mancini.

Naylor ≥ Mancini by 2021 on both sides of ball.

I’ll wager that any time.

You believe Naylor will be a better player than Mancini?

I hope you’re right......but if Naylor ever OPS’s .900 for a full season I’ll.......well,whatever you want Commie.

 

Quote from David Nevin on November 5, 2019, 8:03 pm
Quote from Commie on November 4, 2019, 5:24 pm
Quote from David Nevin on November 4, 2019, 1:37 pm

He's a rare case where I would be willing to trade Patino and/or Campusano and/or even Edwards.

Weathers/Lauer/Campusano/Naylor/Baez.

Patino/Lauer/Naylor/Miller/Bolanos or similar arm.

I'd do either all day long.

 

So would the Orioles.

Trey is worth a couple of the guys you list plus a lottery ticket from short season like Mears. No way they put Patino, Naylor, Weathers or Campusano in a deal for him. Lauer, Miller and Mears for Mancini.

Naylor ≥ Mancini by 2021 on both sides of ball.

I’ll wager that any time.

You believe Naylor will be a better player than Mancini?

I hope you’re right......but if Naylor ever OPS’s .900 for a full season I’ll.......well,whatever you want Commie.

 

How about this then: I bet that both Patino and Campusano will each produce more WAR individually before they come up for free agency than Mancini will before he hits free agency.