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Franchy and Bolaños to Royals...

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For Tim.Hill

About time...Pads needed a lefty in the bullpen with Castillo out....Cordero can't stay healthy and I won't miss his 40% K ratio

Bolanos could have been one to watch but the Padres are deep

Helps both teams or at least the players involved...fresh start ?

MLBPipeline put Bolanos #16 on the KC Top 30. Maybe not as much potential as we believed.

I'm OK with this deal.  It's immediate need for future potential.  On the surface it looks really "reach-y" on Pads part, but when you dig in a little....

Additions of Grisham & Trammell last year pushed Cordero & his lost development time down.  Olivares breakthrough 2019 & ST/camp the final straw.   It's pretty obvious Cordero was the Pads 7th best MLB "OF" (counting Naylor) AND they have Profar & possibly Mateo as possible defensive/fill in OF's.  I had Bolanos as the Pads 11th best "MLB" SP well behind the vets and Gore, Patino, Morejon, & Baez in top 10.  From Pads POV, if you get hit so hard by COVID / injury that Cordero & Bolanos are playing a lot for you, you're probably not "in it" anyway; Hill gives you a better chance to be.  But if they're "down"; how do they develop when they're both older 4A type guys that need to play?  But both have undeniable talent.  If either works out at all for KC, the prognosis will be "win" for them.  If both do, it's a landslide for Royals.

But Hill is EXACTLY what Pads need in multiple ways.   Not just LH, cheap @ "minimum" salary this year AND next, different sidearm look, but very importantly:  He has 2 options left.  The only other guy in top 8 that even could be optioned is Strahm.  The flexibility of Hill to be able to go up/down is more important than normal to this specific Padres team.  He fits perfectly as a proven effective 2 year band aid / depth option until the return of Jose Castillo and  Andres Munoz.

Not sure about grabbing a 30 year old specialist ( when we already have 2 of the same in Strahm and Pomeranz!) for 2 younger guys who could potentially hold more value to our team.

I know Franchy is ALWAYS hurt but his potential is worth holding onto, just in case he blows up. And Bolanos definitely has upside as well.

Just not sure this makes sense. Hill won't make a difference whereas Cordero might.

Padres seem to be playing this deal as a “win now” move.

Yes Cordero and Bolanos have potential but pretty clear they were not making the team. At 25 Cordero’s potential maybe not as projectable as it was a few years ago.

Hill serves just one objective, a specialist LHRP who is very effective vs. LHH ... he may not get a lot of use BUT in a 60 game season when every game is an elimination game his speciality maybe be just what is needed to win a couple of extra games.

Yeh, Pomeranz and Strahm are LHRP but they look to be used in longer situations ... maybe as the 2nd in for a Davies or Quantrill. Plus no guarantee they don’t get injured ... Padres probably don’t want to have Morejon as the next LHRP up.

Always difficult to give up on a prospect but maybe time to move on to a different mindset if you want to build a “win now” roster. Padres seem to be moving into the phase where the deal prospects vs. dealing for prospects.

Liked Cordero but recognize is flaws ... hope he has a good run with KC. Bet he has some highlight reel long distance HR.

Quote from WindsorUK on July 17, 2020, 4:49 pm

Not sure about grabbing a 30 year old specialist ( when we already have 2 of the same in Strahm and Pomeranz!) for 2 younger guys who could potentially hold more value to our team.

I know Franchy is ALWAYS hurt but his potential is worth holding onto, just in case he blows up. And Bolanos definitely has upside as well.

Just not sure this makes sense. Hill won't make a difference whereas Cordero might.

If Castillo hadn't gotten hurt, never would have done this trade (at least not right now).  But  his "6 weeks" strain = 50-100% of the season.  Munoz & likely Wingenter gone also compound the problem.  But with Castillo gone, Hill SHOULD make more of a difference than Cordero or Bolanos would have, simply b/c he'll be on the active roster & get used a lot, and they would not have made the 30-man.   I do agree losing the depth could come back to bite us, more with Cordero.

I've thought it before, but hadn't put it in writing yet:  I think the lack of a Minors season hurts the upper level guys more than the 19 yr olds projecting to AZL...    Cordero & Bolanos are squarely in that category.  I argued all offseason for Cordero to go to AAA for the first 1-2 months to knock the rust off & get going... but he can't.  He's already missed so much development time, it would kill him not to be on a 30-man O.D. roster, and he wasn't going to make ours.  Same for Bolanos.  Next year he's a year older but in the same place, while all the younger guys & new draftees jump him in the rankings & are getting closer.

I don't mind that Preller traded these assets... I just wish he hadn't "had" to.

Quote from WindsorUK on July 17, 2020, 4:49 pm

Not sure about grabbing a 30 year old specialist ( when we already have 2 of the same in Strahm and Pomeranz!) for 2 younger guys who could potentially hold more value to our team.

I know Franchy is ALWAYS hurt but his potential is worth holding onto, just in case he blows up. And Bolanos definitely has upside as well.

Just not sure this makes sense. Hill won't make a difference whereas Cordero might.

Couple of points.

  1. As it was mentioned earlier, Franchy and Bolanos were not going to get any playing time this year.  And even if you think, well maybe next year, where would they play in SD.  Bolanos especially.  He has had the tools but horrendous results until last year.  One season boosts his prospect status but doesnt leap frog the insane depth.  Same for Franchy, if he is the 7th best OF and going to get passed by Trammell, and Olivares he has no spot.
  2. Hill was the part that didnt make sense to me.  He is a LOOGY , but he is not at all like Strahm or Pom.  Both of those pitchers would come in with a fresh inning and could pitch 1-3 innings easily.  Thats not the same for Hill.  So that got me thinking, if Hill is outstanding against lefties but mediocore against righties do you really want him pitching a fresh inning, maybe not.  So when do you use him with the 3 batter limit??
  3. The caveat to the 3 batter rule is IF the inning ends.  So think about it, 1 run lead, 8th inning against the Dodgers in a must win game.  Pagan got two outs but gave up a booming double to Mookie Betts.  Bellinger is now coming up.  Hill comes in, gets the out, inning over, and Yates is able to start the 9th.  That one out, could mean the difference between playoffs and not, and considering Franchy and Bolanos dont have a direct path to the majors,could make up for the potential lost WAR.

Let’s just hope he doesn’t walk Bellinger with J.Turner up next.

But I do agree Hill was probably a target for this reason...esp. with the Dodgers and Bellinger/Pederson/Muncy.

 

Any updates on Bolanos and Franchy?

Hill not looking good AT ALL.

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