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Quote from 84padres on May 3, 2021, 2:28 pm

Dustin May TJ surgery. I don't wish it on anyone but it shows it's not just us. Too much max effort on every pitch.

I know MLB was worried about the impact of a short 2020 on the health of players and being able to play as the season wore on. DON’T think they foresaw the mass number of significant injuries to major players in the space of one month.

Combining the current philosophies of “max effort” over “smart pitching” and the shift to more breaking balls combined with losing a measure of conditioning with only two months of max effort play since 2019 turns out to be a bad combination. I guess similar with the position players with muscle issues everywhere.

If the league did not recognize the risk level ... clearly the fans did not and get frustrated.

Wonder if the league and the union need to sit down for a discussion to maybe modify the 2020 rules on player usage allowing for more rest / shuffling of players?

Heard a report that April was the worst month in baseball history for strikeouts exceeding hits.

The split on those two outcomes:

YTD 2020: 54% K vs. 46% Hits

2011 season: 45% K vs. 55% Hits

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2020: 234/310/392

2011: 255/321/399 ...

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Not a fan of the trend.

Quote from fenn68 on May 3, 2021, 3:27 pm
Quote from 84padres on May 3, 2021, 2:28 pm

Dustin May TJ surgery. I don't wish it on anyone but it shows it's not just us. Too much max effort on every pitch.

I know MLB was worried about the impact of a short 2020 on the health of players and being able to play as the season wore on. DON’T think they foresaw the mass number of significant injuries to major players in the space of one month.

Combining the current philosophies of “max effort” over “smart pitching” and the shift to more breaking balls combined with losing a measure of conditioning with only two months of max effort play since 2019 turns out to be a bad combination. I guess similar with the position players with muscle issues everywhere.

If the league did not recognize the risk level ... clearly the fans did not and get frustrated.

Wonder if the league and the union need to sit down for a discussion to maybe modify the 2020 rules on player usage allowing for more rest / shuffling of players?

Just heard a comment that in April of this season more pitchers went on the IL than the first months of 2019 and 2020 COMBINED.

That is scary ... and shows not just a Padre plague.

The league / union have a problem to address ... no idea how ...

Note Gausman who toiled Sun vs. the Padres just went on the IL.

per MLB Trade Rumors

Dodgers reliever Brusdar Graterol will undergo an MRI on his ailing right forearm Tuesday, Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times tweets. The team placed Graterol on the IL last Thursday with forearm tightness – a rather ominous-sounding injury for someone who underwent Tommy John surgery in the past .

Gausman is dealing with side effects from the Covid vaccine

deGrom is having right side tightness, will undergo an MRI this afternoon, manager Luis Rojas announced

Quote from fenn68 on May 3, 2021, 4:01 pm

Heard a report that April was the worst month in baseball history for strikeouts exceeding hits.

The split on those two outcomes:

YTD 2020: 54% K vs. 46% Hits

2011 season: 45% K vs. 55% Hits

=====

2020: 234/310/392

2011: 255/321/399 ...

====

Not a fan of the trend.

FWIW... that's Batting Avg down 8.2%, OBP down 3.4%, and Slugging down (only) 1.75%.   Have to take with the grain of Salt that fresh armed P's may have the advantage every April over hitters who haven't found their swing yet, & bats may come to life in dog days of Summer with tired P staffs.

I'm not a statistician, but BA being down 2.5 times what OBP is seems like it has to be due to the Shift.

I know selfishly with our players (Machado), the Padres have an advantage defensively over many teams with what they're able to do in the shift, and have employed it more than any other team (per Fangraphs)....   but I really don't like it.  Game needs more hits, not less.  Whatever "thrill" there is to seeing Machado perfectly placed & throwing a guy out is cancelled out by the 3 hits a game each team doesn't get because of the extremity of where players are at.

I feel like it's way too dramatically revising fundamental positional "rules"; it would be like soccer saying 'now it's OK to have a guy be offsides all the time--it won't be a penalty anymore'; it would too dramatically alter the game.  I'm tired of the (always old timers) argument that "well, these guys should just learn to hit like Tony Gwynn".... NOBODY hit like Tony Gwynn except Tony Gwynn.  He might be the absolute outlier 1 in 1,000 able to take advantage of the shift.

It's simple:  INF should have to be off OF grass when ball is pitched, with 2 guys on each side of 2B (line extending to the OF grass behind 2B).  No more 3 guys between 1B-2B with 1 @ Rover ("the Manny shift")

The K trend isn't reversing any time soon.  It's just becoming unwatchable.  Pads among many teams trying & failing to hit a deadened ball out in April weather...   MLB is flailing & failing here.   DH in NL will help, but they've got to get more balls in play = hits.  It's gone WAYYY too far the other way.  The shift accelerates the K trend b/c putting ball in play is an out so often, might as well sell out for power.

Angels DFA Pujols. He hasn't been good in years. Next up should be Miguel Cabrera . It won't happen because he is owed 64 million for 2 more years plus 8 million option. 72 million for 2 years of garbage production, I hope we never get to that point unless we win world series.

Quote from 84padres on May 6, 2021, 11:25 am

Angels DFA Pujols. He hasn't been good in years. Next up should be Miguel Cabrera . It won't happen because he is owed 64 million for 2 more years plus 8 million option. 72 million for 2 years of garbage production, I hope we never get to that point unless we win world series.

This feels like where the majority of "big, long-term contracts" end up ... we'll get there ... the key, as you suggest, is to get a WS championship between here and there ...

Here's an interesting FYI ...

Hunter Greene threw 37 pitches over 100mph. Most ever by a starter in a MLB or MiLB game since the statcast era began in 2015.

Quote from LynchMob on May 6, 2021, 11:47 am

Here's an interesting FYI ...

Hunter Greene threw 37 pitches over 100mph. Most ever by a starter in a MLB or MiLB game since the statcast era began in 2015.

Greene & McKenzie Gore will always be linked at top of same draft.  Time will tell, maybe both will be awesome MLB, but I like Gore's long term potential & am glad he fell to us.

Quote from LynchMob on May 6, 2021, 11:45 am
Quote from 84padres on May 6, 2021, 11:25 am

Angels DFA Pujols. He hasn't been good in years. Next up should be Miguel Cabrera . It won't happen because he is owed 64 million for 2 more years plus 8 million option. 72 million for 2 years of garbage production, I hope we never get to that point unless we win world series.

This feels like where the majority of "big, long-term contracts" end up ... we'll get there ... the key, as you suggest, is to get a WS championship between here and there ...

!!!!

I am 100% serious that I would trade Jorge Mateo for Pujols.  Angels eat all or VAST majority of $$, which they're obviously prepared to do.

I like Mateo, and I realize we are dangerously thin system wise in the OF.  But he is just not a great fit on our specific team.  He's blocked at all the positions he can play (for years) by better players defensively, has little/no power, very questionable bat.   He needs to either be the speed/PR/defensive sub on an AL team, or on a bad 2nd division team to see if he can develop playing regularly.

Even the "shell" of Pujols provides:  1) a PH presence the bench lacks,  2) no brainer DH @ AL teams, 3) RH 1B to spell Hosmer vs LHP.

Come on Preller, make the call before I change my mind in an hour!

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