Quote from MrPadre19 on November 3, 2025, 7:16 am

I think we should offer it....depending on if we are anywhere close to a new contract that is.

I also think Kings should,and will, accept if we offer.

 

One year deals give a lot of incentive to the player to perform

 

Quote from Randy Manese on November 3, 2025, 8:03 am

Assuming the Padres make the QO, then King should gamble on himself.  His market will be a little depressed based on his injury history and short track record as a durable starter.  This will impact the dollar amount of the contract but maybe, more importantly, the length of the contract.  Seen estimates that indicate a 22.05M QO is very close to his market value (22.5-22.7M) for 2026 but likely on only a 2-3 year deal.

If he accepts the QO, he has all the factors in his favor - playing for a solid team with a better than average defense, playing in what is normally a pitcher's park, being backed up by a very good bullpen and having Reuben Niebla as his pitching coach.  Given he is back to the level of health he had in 2024, he should be able to go 29-32 starts and show that he is worthy to be offered a contract of 25M+ and guaranteed for 4-5 years.  Padres may not afford him after 2026, but at least it gives us another year to work on a replacement and be in playoff contention.

First things first - Padres have to make the QO (I'd also do the QO to Cease, although 99.9% sure he won't accept with Boras as his agent so that will get us a draft pick) and then we have a week or less see which way King goes.  If King declines, it seems unlikely the Padres can offer up a multi-year contract that would be competitive because of ownership's uncertain current and future investment in the team.  Got my fingers crossed we'll have the 2024 version of King back in our rotation for 2026 (vice another draft pick)!  GO PADRES!

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 3, 2025, 1:39 pm

King also has to consider the potential lockout after next season.

So that may hurt our chances of him accepting it "if" someone offers him a good 3-4 year deal.

Which they may not considering his injuries etc.

Will be interesting to be sure to see what happens with King

 

Quote from ultratvfan on November 3, 2025, 2:11 pm

Suarez opts out and Wandy exercises his option.

 

Quote from ultratvfan on November 3, 2025, 2:22 pm

If the Padres lose Arraez, maybe they can sign FA Josh Naylor, who has better offensive numbers than Arraez. However, I don't know how good his defense is compared to Arraez's.

Quote from Randy Manese on November 3, 2025, 3:26 pm

Naylor and Arraez are comparable, i.e., both not noted for their defense.  Naylor is especially bad at picking up throws in the dirt, something which I think Arraez improved on over the last year.

Naylor will probably be looking for a multi-year contract in the 15-17M range; don't think Padres can afford that kind of contract with all their holes to fill.  If they do have enough budget room to invest in a 1st baseman in the low double digit range, 10-12M, it might bring them back O'Hearn but he's likely more an AL guy so not putting much hope in getting him back.  Might just stick with Sheets at 1b and look for a DH or a top of the line utility guy who could inject a lot of energy into the line-up (I'm just dreaming of a Ha-seong Kim reunion even though that is highly unlikely!  Love that guy!).

Quote from Randy Manese on November 4, 2025, 1:13 pm

Darvish's surgery, resulting in him missing the entire 2026 season, is likely the worst case scenario for the Padres.  If he had just retired, not on the hook for his salary from 2026 onward.  Assuming Darvish wants to pitch again, then looking at a 40 year old pitcher, back from rehab, with 30M left on his contract for the 2027 and 2028 seasons.   His AAV for those 3 years is 18M per year.

Logically, it doesn't make sense for Darvish to return after surgery; he's already established himself as an Icon with little left to prove.  Quite possible that Padres ensure all his medical expenses and subsequent non-baseball type of rehab are covered (which I believe they are obligated to do) and Yu announces his retirement to free up the 46M left on his contract.  That would be the best case scenario for the Padres as they go into the off-season with only two healthy SPs and one returning from his own surgery and rehab.  Preller is going to have to gamble on some arms and hope he finds the next Pivetta in the group.

Quote from BoosterSD on November 4, 2025, 1:47 pm

Quote from Randy Manese on November 4, 2025, 1:13 pm

Darvish's surgery, resulting in him missing the entire 2026 season, is likely the worst case scenario for the Padres.  If he had just retired, not on the hook for his salary from 2026 onward.  Assuming Darvish wants to pitch again, then looking at a 40 year old pitcher, back from rehab, with 30M left on his contract for the 2027 and 2028 seasons.   His AAV for those 3 years is 18M per year.

Logically, it doesn't make sense for Darvish to return after surgery; he's already established himself as an Icon with little left to prove.  Quite possible that Padres ensure all his medical expenses and subsequent non-baseball type of rehab are covered (which I believe they are obligated to do) and Yu announces his retirement to free up the 46M left on his contract.  That would be the best case scenario for the Padres as they go into the off-season with only two healthy SPs and one returning from his own surgery and rehab.  Preller is going to have to gamble on some arms and hope he finds the next Pivetta in the group.

Not sure of the logistics in MLB contracts, so not sure that this would work. Could SD convince Darvish to retire, cover his medical expenses and then to cover some if not most of the remaining dollars on the players contract, sign him to either a personal services contract or a front office position. Thus freeing SD of the CBT money, letting Darvish walk away with a very good career, and still put some money in his pocket.

Quote from WindsorUK on November 4, 2025, 2:56 pm

After as good as the Padres have treated Yu since he got here, no way he screws us over by sticking around.

If he does, Padres are Hosmer hamstrung again.