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Michel Baez

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Kyle Glasser's comments are ... a bit disturbing ...

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2019-san-diego-padres-top-10-prospects-chat/

John (Champaign, IL): 

    That’s a strong top 10. How close was Baez and is he more likely to end up in the bullpen at this point?

Kyle Glaser: Michel Baez wasn’t far at all and was firmly in the conversation at No. 10. What separated him from Quantrill at 10 ultimately is Quantrill is showing three ML-caliber pitches, while Baez is really only showing two right now. That, plus concerns on just how much Baez stiffened up and lost his direction to the plate, have a majority of evaluators now projecting him to the bullpen.

William (Toronto): 

    I have seen Baez ranked much higher and I thought his numbers looked ok last season. Aside from system depth is there a specific reason for his drop? Does he still profile as a starter? Number 3? 2019 debut?

Kyle Glaser: To follow up on Baez, there are a lot of reasons for his drop. He dropped from 94-98 to 90-94 and touching a 96, he was visibly stiffer and less athletic in his delivery this year compared to last—which happens to bigger guys sometimes and is always a concern with them—and his direction to the plate was kind of a mess and made both of his breaking balls largely ineffective. If he can rediscover the athleticism, explosiveness and arm speed he showed at Fort Wayne in 2017, he can bounce right back up and become a top 10 guy in this system with a starter future. If he stays on the track he showed last year, he’s a two-pitch reliever with a fastball and changeup who probably debuts in 2020.

... and he later adds this ...

 

As for Baez, I would leave him as a starter for now to see if he can rediscover his previous self. But if August rolls around and nothing is getting better (or it's getting worse) I’d stick him in the bullpen and let him loose. He has potential closer velocity, but most closers have a dirty slider to go with their fastballs, and Baez’s slider isn’t that, so that would have to change.

For the record ... https://twitter.com/madfriars/status/1125898863523450882

Expect Baez to be in in about 3 weeks.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat-5-10-19/

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Neal: Eric, would you kindly expound on your recent tweet on Michel Baez? You said his breaker lacked bite but has functional shape/depth. What does that mean exactly, and does it portend good/bad/indifferent things moving forward? Any idea how long until he’s out on assignment? 

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Eric A Longenhagen: It means the curve is fine for dumping into the zone for strikes when hitters aren’t expecting it, but it’s not so nasty that I think hitters will swing at it and miss. It’s been that way for him since signing, he’s a fastball/changeup arm, primarily.

From today's DFR ... great news!

The biggest news of the day was the season debut of Michel Báez at Amarillo.  The big Cuban was late getting started this spring because of back soreness but was activated from the IL Tuesday. Báez tossed two strong innings in relief, giving up a run to the first batter he saw while striking out four.  Báez only threw his fastball and changeup, sitting 95-97, while his change had a good movement and worked between 81-86. During both innings, Báez was able to work down in the zone, which, at his height and his velocity makes his fastball extremely hard to catch up to. The big right-hander will work in a hybrid multi-inning role as he gets up to speed. 

From today's DFR ...

RHP Michel Báez continues to throw every four days, striking out a third of Texas League batters as he does it. While some pitchers in the system are on structured workloads because the Padres are trying to cap innings or build them back up to start, it appears the club is unsure about whether to move the top 100 prospect back into the rotation, or if they should continue to let him face a lineup only one time. After three straight two-inning outings of about 30 pitches when he first joined the club, Báez threw 50 pitches over 2.2 innings in his next appearance. But the giant righty needed only 11 pitches in one frame last time out and got through his two innings Tuesday needing just 24. While it’s not clear if he’ll keep working out of the bullpen, he sports a 1.54 ERA and 17:3 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 11.2 innings in the role.

I would guess they continue this for another week maybe two before they start to add workload.

With the padres recent struggles i don't think it makes sense to keep him in the pen, maybe couple weeks back you could think he could help a race out of the pen. But now that doesn't make much sense.

I would guess they are just being careful with a top prospect coming off injury and he will return to the starting role once he goes a bit longer on relief roles. No real hurry since there is over 2 1/2 months of minor league season left which could get him more than 10 starts.

Doubt having him available for the Padres in 2019 is even a factor in the thinking rather making sure he stays heathy and continues development (as far as I can tell still predominately a 2 pitch pitcher).

Although he may well end up as a RP for the Padres (and potentially a very good one) think they will continue the starting role until he is moved to the ML where the call will be made.

Just happy he is actually pitching with some success ... even in short stints.

Quote from fenn68 on June 13, 2019, 9:20 am

I would guess they are just being careful with a top prospect coming off injury and he will return to the starting role once he goes a bit longer on relief roles. No real hurry since there is over 2 1/2 months of minor league season left which could get him more than 10 starts.

Doubt having him available for the Padres in 2019 is even a factor in the thinking rather making sure he stays heathy and continues development (as far as I can tell still predominately a 2 pitch pitcher).

Although he may well end up as a RP for the Padres (and potentially a very good one) think they will continue the starting role until he is moved to the ML where the call will be made.

Just happy he is actually pitching with some success ... even in short stints.

Thanks you guys for posting about Baez.  I'm higher than most on him:  had him #6 going into season ("consensus" #9).

FENN, I hope you're right.  Being cautious is good, but Baez is really behind the development curve with his age & missed time and simply needs innings.   Obviously a high chance he winds up a GOOD RP, but there is too much potential there to move him off SP right now:  MLB.com has him #73 right now.  Too high to be a pure RP.

I'd like to see them build up his innings and then have him in Arizona Fall League as a SP:  116 IP last year....

He's behind for a 6'1 - 6'3 guy. A 6'7-6'10 guy doesn't follow the same age curve with a typical ascension at 25.

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