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2nd half ideas?
#1 · July 16, 2018, 11:52 am
Since this season is a throw away( yes, that is EXACTLY what it is!), do you guys have ideas about how to proceed in the second half? Trade ideas? Player promotions? Demotions?
As much as I'd like to see Urias and Tatis in San Diego( my knee jerk says bring 'em!) maybe just play out the string with guys already in town.
Firstly, I'd trade any of our bullpen guys. All these guys are reclamation projects for one reason or another. If there is any value in Yates, Hand, Stammen, get it while you still can( Tyson Ross and Chase Headley come to mind as guys we kept too long)
As for Ross, he's showing his mortality. Again, may have waited too long to move him. I'd let Lucchesi and Lauer( and Perdomo for that matter!) pitch every fifth day. Give them a chance and see what we've got( in Perdomo, sadly, thinking not much) Any starter in AAA with prospect designation, bring them up and give them a taste of the bigs. Can only help their maturation.
I'd plug Spangenberg and Villanueva into 2nd and 3rd and just leave them there! See if you can move Pirella( maybe with Ross?), let Asuaje come off the bench. If Corey and Christian play consistently, maybe, just maybe, they can find their comfort zone. Either way, don't see either being back next year so if they can become productive, again, maybe they have trade value? An infield of Hosmer, Spangenberg, Galvis, and Villanueva isn't great but it's the best we can probably do for the last 60 games.
Outfield is a tougher call. I know Myers seems disinterested but he's one of the few players we have that can get it done offensively. I'd leave him in LF and never bring him out. Make him earn that big paycheck.
Since Cordero is done for the season, I'm putting Renfroe out there every day in RF, again in a make or break situation( along with Spangy and Villanueva)
Platooning Margot and Jankowski in CF doesn't seem that bad of a plan going forward. I'm usually against platoons, but both are plus defenders with speed at the top of the lineup.
So basically, I'd like to see a daily lineup( we're talking day in, day out!) of:
1. Margot/Jankowski CF
2. Spangenberg 2B
3. Myers LF
4. Hosmer 1B
5. Renfroe RF
6. Villanueva 3B
7. Hedges C
8. Galvis SS
A rotation of Richard( my favorite Padre), Perdomo, Lauer, Lucchesi, and ....whoever.
Not expecting a miracle but I think that lineup with those players, if left alone, could be alright. Power, speed, not much average or on base ability but you reap what you sow, right?
#2 · July 16, 2018, 12:03 pm
Move
Pirella, Spang, Jank, Myers, Galvis, Ellis, Ross, Richard, Hand, Yates, Stammen
Play
Asuaje, Margot, Reyes, Guerra, Lopez, Lockett, Kennedy, Stock, Makita, Brewer
Team Tank
#3 · July 16, 2018, 2:50 pm
Only way I think they move anyone on the current 25 man out of the organization is via trade for value not just to move them. What would moving the players you suggest for whatever they could get (sub par prospects or reclamation projects in your scenario) do to benefit he franchise in the short or long term?
That said, I wasted a good Saturday night at the game and then was as pissed as I bet you were seeing yesterday. I do think Pirela is not long for the roster. He just isn't a smart player and his defense overshadows the empty offense he contributes.
#4 · July 16, 2018, 3:30 pm
No need to make any moves if your objective is to come out with a poor record ... the past month with this roster has plummeted them to the 4th worst record ... and likely they can be bad enough to underperform Baltimore or KC.
Agree with Commie that should NOT make any trades just to get someone off the roster .... especially if the offers are just plain low quality prospect returns. Keep them around (not costing them much and not blocking any real prospect now) on the oft chance the show well down the stretch and create some trade value in the winter. Aside: an assumption that they waited too long to deal anyone assumes someone actually wanted to deal for that player and offered something of value. Few teams are dealing with much gusto pre-All Star break anywhere ... so unless there is a willing and able buyer not much will happen.
In all this suspect all will see the returns as light or great depending on our bias but still without the true benefit of what was really the alternative deal (if any) on the table.
As for replacements / call-ups ... would limited the 2018 moves to current 40 man roster types (a last hurrah maybe for some and/or justifying their status as a 40 man roster player going forward) or someone who would be added to be protected from this winter's rule 5 (had a potential list up before). On those that could be added ... really only two that might be an interesting 2018 call-ups: Kennedy (at least doing well in AAA) and Urias in September (not excelling in AAA and apparently the Padres want to see him hot for a full month before a move).
I would go as long as I could with a steady diet of: Hedges, Hosmer, Asuaje, Galvis (no real other choice here), Spangenberg, Myers, Margot, Jankowski. I have zero future value for Lopez, Ellis, Villanueva and really Renfroe (but he would be the 4th OF option) ... let Reyes play in AAA (at least he is still young) and will get his extend tryout in 2019...
#5 · July 16, 2018, 4:18 pm
Quote from Commie on July 16, 2018, 2:50 pmWhat would moving the players you suggest for whatever they could get (sub par prospects or reclamation projects in your scenario) do to benefit he franchise in the short or long term?
In the short term you free up at bats for first looks, last looks. Ellis, Galvis aren't going to be contributing future value. I don't see much chance that Ross doesn't take the 1 year deal if he's QOed, so no future value there unless he has a repeat performance of this year. Richard is eating innings and honestly I'm fine not moving him, but there are so many pitchers coming down the line that this will be one of the last chances guys like Lockett, Kennedy, Scholtens that we could piggy back until the end of the season to get innings out of and it's not like it's hard to protect the innings on a bad bullpen anyways when you make them interchangable with the AA-AAA clubs.
Long term delay the 40 man roster crunch for the OF. Renfroe, Reyes, Cordero, Margot you know top 100 type pre-arb guys that have yet to hit the 1000AB threshold. Get out from under a contract that produces inconsistent value before it becomes punitive. Add around 40-45m to the warchest for 2020 and go out and get a Cole/Sale/Arenado in our actual window of opportunity.