Quote from MrPadre19 on November 29, 2024, 7:33 am

Every team will still try to lure Sasaki no matter how many Starters they have.

My only hope is he won't want to go where he would be the 5th/6th starter or the signing of Snell by LA was because they already know he has chosen another team...or that he prefers a smaller market.As a Japanese star the media attention will already be massive....hopefully he just doesn't want that much more.

Sucks we gotta wait 6 more weeks to find out

I wonder if he will announce his intentions before the day he can sign?

Would be a great Christmas present

 

 

Quote from Alex Tamayo on November 29, 2024, 3:46 pm

Edman signed with the bums, deferred money included, 5 years and 74 millions? I wouldn't have thought he is worth that much (as a baseball player of course) per year not so bad, but still, 5 years?

Quote from WindsorUK on November 29, 2024, 4:38 pm

Where is the Dodgers payroll after these signings?

I know nothing about caps, penalties, repeat offenders, etc. Surely the Blue must be WAY past what is allowed, even with their deferred nonsense? Or they just have so much money, they're happy to pay the fines of going over the cap?

Is there not an absolute cap either? Without it, the NY and LA teams can just keep spending, which kind of ruins the whole idea of a cap in the first place, no?

Quote from WindsorUK on November 29, 2024, 4:39 pm

Quote from Alex Tamayo on November 29, 2024, 3:46 pm

Edman signed with the bums, deferred money included, 5 years and 74 millions? I wouldn't have thought he is worth that much (as a baseball player of course) per year not so bad, but still, 5 years?

Is that what to expect for a Kim signing?

Quote from Alex Tamayo on November 29, 2024, 5:55 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on November 29, 2024, 4:38 pm

Where is the Dodgers payroll after these signings?

I know nothing about caps, penalties, repeat offenders, etc. Surely the Blue must be WAY past what is allowed, even with their deferred nonsense? Or they just have so much money, they're happy to pay the fines of going over the cap?

Is there not an absolute cap either? Without it, the NY and LA teams can just keep spending, which kind of ruins the whole idea of a cap in the first place, no?

Also, if they dont care about paying taxes, why defer money?, The whole thing is disguting

Quote from fenn68 on November 30, 2024, 4:21 am

The LAD (and the METS, NYY) are very very well financed organizations in big markets … but pretty sure they still make decisions on a how to make a bigger profit. They just have different factors in play … don’t need to borrow (unless that a good leverage option) and can balance the costs vs the projected revenue increase in that big market from a winner and “stars” … along with new markets overseas and across the US with fans who like winners. NYY and LAD are well followed outside their markets generating revenue. Don’t under estimate the foreign markets impact where the NYY and the LAD have had a stronghold of fans for over a half a century. Very hard for other teams to break-in with any impact.

Even the fact that the LAD  will be having their drafts adversely impacted (drop slots, loss of picks, loss of international money) as this goes on … appears they have make the calculus that they can still be effective in the draft but if they need ML help … just buy it and not rely  on the draft.

Actually the deferrals of money (especially at the big dollar levels) is financially beneficial to both the club and the player (in theory). Player benefits with a steady income stream post-retirement along with potential tax benefit depending how he manages his money and where he decides to retire. As for the ownership of the club … not paying now means they can eventually pay from the increase revenue stream on the active years and assume those early retained revenues will be invested with a better return than they will end up having to play the player. It can be a win-win for both the player and the club if everyone does their calculations right. It is still a negotiated to make both sides “comfortable”. Does opt always work … re: Bobby Bonilla … pretty sure he is happy with his $1MM annually the got for 30 years but the old METS ownership is not since they chose to “invest” for a better return with Bernie Madoff and subsequently lost a ton of money. Still risk on both sides.

Quote from fenn68 on November 30, 2024, 5:30 am

Note that Roster Resource is projecting the Padres … WITH THE CURRENT ROSTER … to be $3MM OVER the CBT threshold hold … $17MM under the second tier..

With every indication that the Padres are not going to go hog wild is additional spending, we (and Preller) may have to focus on low end FA, prospects moving up,, and trades … and with the needs at C, 1B/DH, LF, SP and generally the bench even going that route they still may exceed that second threshold. I guess some “strategy” is in play since 2026 opens up a lot of payroll space as Arraez, Cease, King go FA and Hosmer is off the books … plus Suarez can opt out. Keep in mind the “core 2025 team” is already quite good.

I would suspect that (although he would never admit it) Preller is not building a team this winter to win the NL West (LAD can have it and SD will challenge if everything goes right) but is building a team to make the playoffs and then be structured to be effective in short series heading to the World Series. May use the trade deadline as the point where he addresses any holes that are apparent at that time. So maybe that #4-6 SP may not have to be that good … just serviceable.

Sasaki is really a key .. a major SP at league minimum frees up money to fill the other needs. So, maybe Preller is “restrained” until he knows where Sasaki lands (in mid-Jan) and if not the Padres … a ST run of moves with FA who are lingering around. If the Padres, Preller may be able to upgrade his targets a bit (not a lot but better options).

I would be surprised if Preller deals any of the current ML players … he needs to clear salary and get replacements with limited funds so a deal may just make the situation worse since the buying team woulld likely be a contender that does not want to move ML talent.

”Might” take a gamble of dealing Suarez … not big money but will bolt to FA opt out after 2025 plus should be in demand as a closer … Padres have a shot at covering his departure with a number of gamble options but RP being what they are … possible. Deploy his $9MM to another need and potentially get a useful ML (low cost) player in return.

Quote from fenn68 on December 2, 2024, 3:33 am

Beginning to look like the Padres … given their apparent limited budget and other position player needs … will have to go with internal options for the #4/#5 SP or some really long shot rebound FA. Consider that Matthew Boyd (34) just signed for 2 years / $17.5MM AAV after pitching in only 8 games in 2024 and has not gone over 78 innings since 2019 (4.85 ERA). Not that good for a SP.

Earlier SP signings: Snell ($34MM AAV / 5 years); Kukluchi ($21MM AAV / 3 years); Wacha ($17MM AAV / 3 years); Montes ($17MM AAV / 2 years).

Padres really need to sign Sasaki! If not are Vasquez / Waldron the leading candidates to start? Will / can they gamble on conversions to SP of Morejon or Hoeing (neither strong recent histories as SP)? Brito? Any prospects with a chance … Baez, Cruz, Bergert, Lizarraga???

Just don’t see a trade yielding a low cost SP who we can be confident in as a SP given their apparent limited limited trade chips.

Good luck Preller.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 2, 2024, 6:57 am

I'd like to see us sign a low risk/high reward SP like Soroka,Turnbull or Buehler.

Buehler may cost more due to his pedigree when healthy ......Soroka would be my #1 choice.Still only 27 and not much wear and tear on his arm due to injuries.....which were mostly leg injuries.

Turnbull was pretty good last year when healthy.