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Quote from fenn68 on June 8, 2023, 3:58 am100 games yet to play … still optimistic on the Padres’ playoff chances.
Pre-season touted as one of the best offenses in MLB played as one of the worst offenses in the first 62 games … but expect that most (if not all) the Padre hitters will rebound to hit closer to their histories … which are over long periods.
At this point, maybe still don’t give up the idea of winning the NL West BUT keep a focus on that Wild Card slot so they don’t do anything stupid to hurt those chances. Make the playoffs … while hot … win in the playoffs … World Series still in their sights.
Padres have 33 losses … Pitt (the last in Wild Card) has 29 and most think Pitt will fade so a 4 game gap is pretty small. Actually the WC team ahead of Pitt is Miami with 28 losses and they have their own holes so a 5 game difference is not so challenging. In between are CINN, PHIL, NYM, SF … all with their shortcomings … so when the Padres get their offense on a role … should be picking these teams off one by one.
100 games yet to play … still optimistic on the Padres’ playoff chances.
Pre-season touted as one of the best offenses in MLB played as one of the worst offenses in the first 62 games … but expect that most (if not all) the Padre hitters will rebound to hit closer to their histories … which are over long periods.
At this point, maybe still don’t give up the idea of winning the NL West BUT keep a focus on that Wild Card slot so they don’t do anything stupid to hurt those chances. Make the playoffs … while hot … win in the playoffs … World Series still in their sights.
Padres have 33 losses … Pitt (the last in Wild Card) has 29 and most think Pitt will fade so a 4 game gap is pretty small. Actually the WC team ahead of Pitt is Miami with 28 losses and they have their own holes so a 5 game difference is not so challenging. In between are CINN, PHIL, NYM, SF … all with their shortcomings … so when the Padres get their offense on a role … should be picking these teams off one by one.
Quote from MrPadre19 on June 8, 2023, 10:15 am27-4 in games we score 4 or more runs.
That proves that the pitchers are doing their jobs.
This team should not struggle to score 4 runs a game.
I still believe that we will be fine.
27-4 in games we score 4 or more runs.
That proves that the pitchers are doing their jobs.
This team should not struggle to score 4 runs a game.
I still believe that we will be fine.
Quote from sportwarrior on June 8, 2023, 11:02 amThe Padres are actually (somehow) averaging a smidge over 4 runs a game overall this season (4.16). However, that's 24th best in MLB and 13th in the NL.
Their road offense has been alright, averaging 4.74 runs per game, good enough to rank 11th in MLB and 7th in the NL.
However, their home offense ranks 30th in MLB (3.58 runs per game), ahead of only Oakland and Cleveland.
For comparison, the Dodgers (5.56), Dbacks (5.05), Giants (4.61) and Rocks (4.46) all rank ahead of us in offense. The Dodgers, Dbacks, and Giants all score more than 5 runs per game on the road, as well.
Simply put, we need to increase our average by at least half a run to really start competing consistently. This shouldn't be impossible, but... well, you know... it's June.
The Padres are actually (somehow) averaging a smidge over 4 runs a game overall this season (4.16). However, that's 24th best in MLB and 13th in the NL.
Their road offense has been alright, averaging 4.74 runs per game, good enough to rank 11th in MLB and 7th in the NL.
However, their home offense ranks 30th in MLB (3.58 runs per game), ahead of only Oakland and Cleveland.
For comparison, the Dodgers (5.56), Dbacks (5.05), Giants (4.61) and Rocks (4.46) all rank ahead of us in offense. The Dodgers, Dbacks, and Giants all score more than 5 runs per game on the road, as well.
Simply put, we need to increase our average by at least half a run to really start competing consistently. This shouldn't be impossible, but... well, you know... it's June.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 10, 2023, 8:27 amJust want to give a shout out to the scout/scouts that were out there looking at Gary Sanchez!
He was a free agent all winter and for some reason or another, AJ didn't think enough of him to bring him in( although we were looking for MLB backstop help)
Those scouts must have really put their necks out there to get GS signed this time around.
Kudos!
Just want to give a shout out to the scout/scouts that were out there looking at Gary Sanchez!
He was a free agent all winter and for some reason or another, AJ didn't think enough of him to bring him in( although we were looking for MLB backstop help)
Those scouts must have really put their necks out there to get GS signed this time around.
Kudos!
Quote from Henry Silvestre on June 10, 2023, 4:37 pmQuote from WindsorUK on June 10, 2023, 8:27 amJust want to give a shout out to the scout/scouts that were out there looking at Gary Sanchez!
He was a free agent all winter and for some reason or another, AJ didn't think enough of him to bring him in( although we were looking for MLB backstop help)
Those scouts must have really put their necks out there to get GS signed this time around.
Kudos!
Definetely the Key to start this Ferrari of a team.. so far so good and even Nola is reaping the benefits (Single, key BB and a CS ) Gary bringing it..and bringing out the best on all around him ..including the SP..
Quote from WindsorUK on June 10, 2023, 8:27 amJust want to give a shout out to the scout/scouts that were out there looking at Gary Sanchez!
He was a free agent all winter and for some reason or another, AJ didn't think enough of him to bring him in( although we were looking for MLB backstop help)
Those scouts must have really put their necks out there to get GS signed this time around.
Kudos!
Definetely the Key to start this Ferrari of a team.. so far so good and even Nola is reaping the benefits (Single, key BB and a CS ) Gary bringing it..and bringing out the best on all around him ..including the SP..
Quote from fenn68 on June 11, 2023, 3:30 amIt is quite natural for fans to focus on the ugly underperformance of the offense to start the season (especially after the hype that it would be the best in baseball) … last or near last in most key offensive stats and the “stars” either missing in action or just not producing. However only a third of the season gone and
1. In the past two + weeks (yes, small sample size) Padres are a top 10 offense, Manny has come to life, the starting line-up is in tact … so if you accept return to the mean for players … and the Padres collectively were far below the mean … we should see a lot of offense through the rest of the season;
2. The pitching continues to hold up producing in the upper half of MLB … and with veterans in Darvish, Musgrove, Wacha, and the good Snell should remain effective as SP along with a strong pen … sets up a strong finish in 2023;
3. Layer those two points on the current standings … although the Padres are 2 games under .500 … don’t lose sight that they are ONLY 2 games in the loss column behind the last Wild Card team (MILW with 31 losses) and only behind one other team (SF with 32 losses) while tied with PHIL with 33 loses. That is a good week away from gaining a Wild Card slot … and the season is long.
Make the Playoffs … be hot in OCT … win the World Series … all is still well within reach for this club.
Yes, a tougher challenge to overtake AZ and LAD for the NL West but not out of the question since the LAD are beginning to show some significant weaknesses (and losing) while AZ is staying hotter than expected with their young players … the summer / long season may cool them off to closer to pre-season expectations. So, with 99 games to play all is not lost.
Let’s make the rest of the season fun for the fans.
It is quite natural for fans to focus on the ugly underperformance of the offense to start the season (especially after the hype that it would be the best in baseball) … last or near last in most key offensive stats and the “stars” either missing in action or just not producing. However only a third of the season gone and
1. In the past two + weeks (yes, small sample size) Padres are a top 10 offense, Manny has come to life, the starting line-up is in tact … so if you accept return to the mean for players … and the Padres collectively were far below the mean … we should see a lot of offense through the rest of the season;
2. The pitching continues to hold up producing in the upper half of MLB … and with veterans in Darvish, Musgrove, Wacha, and the good Snell should remain effective as SP along with a strong pen … sets up a strong finish in 2023;
3. Layer those two points on the current standings … although the Padres are 2 games under .500 … don’t lose sight that they are ONLY 2 games in the loss column behind the last Wild Card team (MILW with 31 losses) and only behind one other team (SF with 32 losses) while tied with PHIL with 33 loses. That is a good week away from gaining a Wild Card slot … and the season is long.
Make the Playoffs … be hot in OCT … win the World Series … all is still well within reach for this club.
Yes, a tougher challenge to overtake AZ and LAD for the NL West but not out of the question since the LAD are beginning to show some significant weaknesses (and losing) while AZ is staying hotter than expected with their young players … the summer / long season may cool them off to closer to pre-season expectations. So, with 99 games to play all is not lost.
Let’s make the rest of the season fun for the fans.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 11, 2023, 3:47 amRead a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
Read a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
Quote from fenn68 on June 11, 2023, 6:04 amQuote from WindsorUK on June 11, 2023, 3:47 amRead a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
My understanding is that when the fielder “first touches the ball” the runner can leave after tagging up … does not have to be a secure catch.
In theory, it prevents a fielder from intentionally juggling a ball to hold a runner … unlikely but possible. Also takes a bit of a burden off the runner who … from a distance … has to determine if / when the fielder made a secure catch.
Quote from WindsorUK on June 11, 2023, 3:47 amRead a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
My understanding is that when the fielder “first touches the ball” the runner can leave after tagging up … does not have to be a secure catch.
In theory, it prevents a fielder from intentionally juggling a ball to hold a runner … unlikely but possible. Also takes a bit of a burden off the runner who … from a distance … has to determine if / when the fielder made a secure catch.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on June 11, 2023, 8:58 amSince 5/25 Padres are actually #3 in Offense btw..
Tatis leads all RF in DRS with 9 despite missing 20 games
🔹9 DRS ➡️Leader among MLB RF
🔹5 OAA➡️Leader among MLB RF
🔹94% success rate (+5%)
Since 5/25 Padres are actually #3 in Offense btw..
Tatis leads all RF in DRS with 9 despite missing 20 games
🔹9 DRS ➡️Leader among MLB RF
🔹5 OAA➡️Leader among MLB RF
🔹94% success rate (+5%)
Quote from 3fingersplit on June 11, 2023, 9:45 amQuote from fenn68 on June 11, 2023, 6:04 amQuote from WindsorUK on June 11, 2023, 3:47 amRead a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
My understanding is that when the fielder “first touches the ball” the runner can leave after tagging up … does not have to be a secure catch.
In theory, it prevents a fielder from intentionally juggling a ball to hold a runner … unlikely but possible. Also takes a bit of a burden off the runner who … from a distance … has to determine if / when the fielder made a secure catch.
There is a difference between a "touched" ball and a "caught" fly ball in foul territory...a baserunner may tag and advance on a fly foul ball that is "Caught" but if the same the runner tagged up and left on first touch and the ball was bobbled and hit the ground or net, tarp, then caught... then it's a foul ball and the runners cannot advance on a foul ball. An umpire cannot assume the out on a touch and neither can a baserunner...there must be a determination of the play before anything else can happen...."Caught" fly ball or foul ball.
Intent also has come up with the most obvious being the line drive to a second baseman with a runner on first and third and he intentionally drops it in the field of play to get an inning ending double play...is it a catch or live ball and does the runner on third have to tag up?
All I can say is that Manny made a hell of a play not only on the circus catch but then to make the throw that he did in the event the runner did tag and attempt to advance AFTER to catch was unreal...just having the baseball smarts to know the situation and make the catch then throw...that is highlight reel stuff.
Quote from fenn68 on June 11, 2023, 6:04 amQuote from WindsorUK on June 11, 2023, 3:47 amRead a quote in the SDUT from Jeff Sanders:
Tovar could have tagged the moment the ball first struck the heel of Machado’s glove as he wondered toward the wall on the other side of the rolled-up tarp.
Had Tovar tagged the moment of that first contact, would he have been deemed to have left too early? Surely the runner doesn't tag until the out is actually made? In theory, Machado could have juggled that ball for 10 seconds- is Sanders suggesting Tovar could have waltzed down the line and scored a run whilst Manny was performing his juggling act?
That doesn't seem right to me. Anyone with more knowledge on the rules explain Sanders comment?
My understanding is that when the fielder “first touches the ball” the runner can leave after tagging up … does not have to be a secure catch.
In theory, it prevents a fielder from intentionally juggling a ball to hold a runner … unlikely but possible. Also takes a bit of a burden off the runner who … from a distance … has to determine if / when the fielder made a secure catch.
There is a difference between a "touched" ball and a "caught" fly ball in foul territory...a baserunner may tag and advance on a fly foul ball that is "Caught" but if the same the runner tagged up and left on first touch and the ball was bobbled and hit the ground or net, tarp, then caught... then it's a foul ball and the runners cannot advance on a foul ball. An umpire cannot assume the out on a touch and neither can a baserunner...there must be a determination of the play before anything else can happen...."Caught" fly ball or foul ball.
Intent also has come up with the most obvious being the line drive to a second baseman with a runner on first and third and he intentionally drops it in the field of play to get an inning ending double play...is it a catch or live ball and does the runner on third have to tag up?
All I can say is that Manny made a hell of a play not only on the circus catch but then to make the throw that he did in the event the runner did tag and attempt to advance AFTER to catch was unreal...just having the baseball smarts to know the situation and make the catch then throw...that is highlight reel stuff.




