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Padres vs Dodgers August 4-7
#11 · August 5, 2023, 8:44 am
I turned it off before Barlow came in. He was great in his 1st outing. From looking at his game log it looks like he's been mostly good, but his bad outings tend to look like last night's where he gives up multiple runs. He's also in a rough stretch right now. 12 of the 26 earned runs he's allowed this season have come since the start of July. He was so good the past few seasons I have to think he'll figure it out. Of course I would have thought the same thing with Garcia. We all know relievers can be volatile. I think we'll need to see more of him to make a fair judgement.
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#12 · August 5, 2023, 9:34 am
Somewhat lost in the bullpen meltdown was the all too familiar lack of clutch hitting from the offense. There was some tough luck in the 1st with Tatis getting robbed and Manny's rocket out. After that they had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs in the 2nd and didn't score. All told they went 3-16 with RISP. That's not good enough.
#13 · August 5, 2023, 9:47 am
Someone once told me that baseball is a game of inches. Well, last night was a good example of that. Jr. got robbed by Outman but was an inch away from giving us a 2-0 lead. Cooper was out by an inch on that play at first by Rosario; we hit quite a few long bombs that were caught at the wall in the OF. If just one of those is hit an inch higher on the bat (or a millisecond earlier), it’s a HR instead of an out. An inch closer to the plate on the 3-2 pitch by Suarez and it’s a K and the end of the inning instead of the go-ahead run and the continuation of the inning.
What I’ve noticed is that the Dodgers play the game in such a way that they’ll get that extra inch to go their way. But that all it takes. An inch here and an inch there, and you win the game.
OTOH, it seems like we don’t really get that inch to go our way when it matters - in general and not only vs. LA. But I suspect that this is a question of organizational culture. They just play the game better and smarter, which leads to them advancing an inch at a time toward their immediate objective and to the win eventually.
Thoughts?
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#14 · August 5, 2023, 12:56 pm
Quote from Stergios on August 5, 2023, 9:47 amSomeone once told me that baseball is a game of inches. Well, last night was a good example of that. Jr. got robbed by Outman but was an inch away from giving us a 2-0 lead. Cooper was out by an inch on that play at first by Rosario; we hit quite a few long bombs that were caught at the wall in the OF. If just one of those is hit an inch higher on the bat (or a millisecond earlier), it’s a HR instead of an out. An inch closer to the plate on the 3-2 pitch by Suarez and it’s a K and the end of the inning instead of the go-ahead run and the continuation of the inning.
What I’ve noticed is that the Dodgers play the game in such a way that they’ll get that extra inch to go their way. But that all it takes. An inch here and an inch there, and you win the game.
OTOH, it seems like we don’t really get that inch to go our way when it matters - in general and not only vs. LA. But I suspect that this is a question of organizational culture. They just play the game better and smarter, which leads to them advancing an inch at a time toward their immediate objective and to the win eventually.
Thoughts?
I was saying the same thing to my dad re: the game of inches last night. However, I refuse to believe that the difference between success and failure is anything but luck when it comes to hitting a ground ball or line drive in a general direction. As you said, Garrett Cooper hit an oppo grounder that, had it been a few inches to the right, would have been a hit. He didn't miss by inches because he isn't as gritty or determined as the dodgers. Last night was frustrating because of hits like that, or the Tatis rob job, or the smoked oppo liner off Manny's bat that Heyward chased down. That was all just shit luck. It has nothing to so with the way the game is played.
#15 · August 5, 2023, 7:48 pm
It’s hard to even get excited about a dodger series any more.
They completely own us no matter how much we spend or who is on the roster and I’m sick of it.
This ones not over….just not much fun to watch.
#16 · August 5, 2023, 8:06 pm
Thank God I sold my tickets for tomorrow, I´m not sure if I could handle the embarrasment
#17 · August 5, 2023, 8:27 pm
Well it certainly feels better being on this side of a bullpen/defensive meltdown.
#18 · August 5, 2023, 8:29 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on August 5, 2023, 7:48 pmIt’s hard to even get excited about a dodger series any more.
They completely own us no matter how much we spend or who is on the roster and I’m sick of it.
This ones not over….just not much fun to watch.
Had to try something…thank Gwynn it worked.
Hader still won’t pitch….maybe he can get 6 outs tomorrow?
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#19 · August 5, 2023, 8:31 pm
Turnabout is fair play
#20 · August 5, 2023, 10:50 pm
Quote from sportwarrior on August 5, 2023, 12:56 pmQuote from Stergios on August 5, 2023, 9:47 amSomeone once told me that baseball is a game of inches. Well, last night was a good example of that. Jr. got robbed by Outman but was an inch away from giving us a 2-0 lead. Cooper was out by an inch on that play at first by Rosario; we hit quite a few long bombs that were caught at the wall in the OF. If just one of those is hit an inch higher on the bat (or a millisecond earlier), it’s a HR instead of an out. An inch closer to the plate on the 3-2 pitch by Suarez and it’s a K and the end of the inning instead of the go-ahead run and the continuation of the inning.
What I’ve noticed is that the Dodgers play the game in such a way that they’ll get that extra inch to go their way. But that all it takes. An inch here and an inch there, and you win the game.
OTOH, it seems like we don’t really get that inch to go our way when it matters - in general and not only vs. LA. But I suspect that this is a question of organizational culture. They just play the game better and smarter, which leads to them advancing an inch at a time toward their immediate objective and to the win eventually.
Thoughts?
I was saying the same thing to my dad re: the game of inches last night. However, I refuse to believe that the difference between success and failure is anything but luck when it comes to hitting a ground ball or line drive in a general direction. As you said, Garrett Cooper hit an oppo grounder that, had it been a few inches to the right, would have been a hit. He didn't miss by inches because he isn't as gritty or determined as the dodgers. Last night was frustrating because of hits like that, or the Tatis rob job, or the smoked oppo liner off Manny's bat that Heyward chased down. That was all just shit luck. It has nothing to so with the way the game is played.
The Dodgers have been robbing us of HR’s since game 2 of our playoff series against them in 2020 when Bellinger robbed Tati late in the game. We have not done the same. Why? It has to be more than luck imo.
Nor do think that Cooper lacks grit and that that’s the reason he got robbed of a single. But I think that the Dodgers do a better job of executing their plays. When a guy hits the ball right at the second baseman, it’s because the pitcher hit his spot. My theory is that When the ball is hit too far away from the fielder to allow him to make the play, the pitcher failed to properly execute his pitch.