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#1 · May 6, 2022, 11:46 am
Martinez was signed to a 4 year deal but every season is a players option.
If he stays in the rotation and keeps pitching like last night he’s gone for sure.
May play in to the decision on the rotation after Snell returns.
Why not team options?
This could end up a one and done situation which would royally suck considering the veterans aren’t signed long term and are/will be expensive.
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#2 · May 6, 2022, 12:09 pm
Even if he becomes the long man in the pen and still pitches well he is likely gone to some team that will want him to start … he will be 32 next winter and what he has locked after this year is $19.5MM/3 years … likely can top that if he pitches well.
Should note that Suarez and Profar have similar “player option” deals. Creates a lot of team uncertainty gong forward.
#3 · May 6, 2022, 12:11 pm
Can the Padres buy out an option year?
If not, if he's still pitching well, package him in a deal for a better bat?
#4 · May 6, 2022, 12:36 pm
Afraid he won’t hold much value to many teams if he’s gonna be a free agent after this season.
Seems like a dumb deal for AJ to put on the table.
#5 · May 6, 2022, 12:46 pm
If he is pitching well not much point in trading him with the buying team expecting him to opt out … best Padres would get is a fringe minor leaguer from a contender.
With the Padres having to allocate 2023 money to “potentially” try to resign Musgrove, Manaea, Clevinger, Rogers AND Martinez (plus some others) … Martinez may be the last priority of the starters.
#6 · May 6, 2022, 1:50 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on May 6, 2022, 12:36 pmAfraid he won’t hold much value to many teams if he’s gonna be a free agent after this season.
Seems like a dumb deal for AJ to put on the table.
Only seems like a dumb deal if/when the alternative of not having him on your team is the better alternative ... and that's clearly NOT the case here ... aren't we all glad he's on the 2022 Padres?
#7 · May 6, 2022, 2:36 pm
But the only way to sign him was to give “him” three option years?
I mean…what leverage did he have?
If you were smart in signing him because he pitches well…..he’s gone.
#8 · May 6, 2022, 4:50 pm
We don’t know what other teams were trying to sign him as a FA … and their offers.
The “player options” may have bought down the level guaranteed from other clubs in 2022 and changed the guaranteed length.
Could be that Martinez believed once he proved he could be successful in the ML he could swing a better deal than the other offers and needed an “escape clause” that the Padres provided … maybe giving a bit of a 2022 break on the contract dollars.
Padres maybe believed enough in him to think that even if he does not excel in 2022 … he at the worst case is still worth the $6.3MM/yr for 3 years if he does not opt out.
Given the luxury tax issue with the Padres … being creative with the contract may result in a lower AAV … helping in 2022 while providing insurance to Martinez.
#9 · May 6, 2022, 4:54 pm
Should add that IF he pitches well … no reason why the Padres would not rework the deal at year end.
Might be a lower cost option (maybe as the second sign) than Musgrove, Manaea, or Clevinger. Those three should demand pretty steep contracts … maybe sign one for big money and then Martinez at a lower level / shorter term.
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#10 · May 7, 2022, 7:19 pm
So how does the $1.5 mil buyout work?
Does that mean if he declines the option we give him $1.5 mil as a parting gift or does it mean if he takes the option…and we don’t want him….we can pay him $1.5 mil to go away?